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Previous owner puck some sick paint on it and cut the arm hole to fit an SME. I think I can over come that cut by cutting the hole out a bit and adding another tonearm board.There is still the part that hold the record brush arm left on the plate but I thought to leave it in case I find a replacement.
First i will strip that paint off.
We had a look and the old guy replace the belt, cleaned out the under platter, and oiled it. We turn it on and it is quiet, comes up to speed slower thatn the NAD533, and looks like it holds steady at 33.3 but i really need a good 60hrtz lamp to check. The spindle looks straigth and true. Nice little pop when you remove the platter from the bearing well. The platter has an inverted bearing but I didn't take a picture of that.
I don't know if i need to strengthen the underside where the arm is mounted but it looks like it needs some work.
Any suggestions are eagerly welcomed.
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that thing is gorgeous..i really like the belt driven idler idea- them german's is smart.
definitely jealous!
Nice pics! Wonderful vintage idler wheel drive TT. I 2nd the suggestion of building a heavy plinth for it from layers of birch multiply and MDF. Get the TT itself to run as silent as possible. Damp the underside of the chassis. Pair it with a good arm. The basic recipe is the same for 301, 401, 124, Lenco, Rek-O-Kut. Good luck!
"The torture never stops"
I will bring back the original plinths wood just to do it. But building a solid plinth is probably something I will not be able to resist doing anyway. ;-)What is a good thing to damp the underside chassis with? [I foirget the name if the stuff people use in auto's to damp the bass]
What a super cool idler project. I love it! You lucked out.I am not sure that the *remove paint* thing would be as good as just building a new plinth. Email me about this if you don't want to diy... I am building a new plinth and building two is about the same trouble as building one. I probably have enough left overs to not have to order a thing.
I love your Thorens! I bet it will sound nice too. Have you tried your Rega arm on the thing yet? How does the sound compare to that Rega table of yours?
I bet you are spinning it right now!
Hopefully the motor is running good. Just buy a can of electric motor cleaner from a auto supply store. At an electronics store you can buy contact cleaner which is what I have used on all my projects. I am using the cleaner without lubricant.
Crikey it only took me 3 weeks to do the project on my Garrard 301. Best 3 weeks labour I have done. What a turntable these old Garrards are. As for idler tables being noisy neither the Commonwealth Electronics, Garrard 401 nor the 301 have ant noticeable noise even when you put your ear on the plinth. Maybe it has to do with these tables not having had much use in the past. I am making up for lost time on them now and maybe some time in the not to distant future I will experience this "Rumble" that these tables are so famous for.
OLLY
These Garrards are built to last a millenium...or two!
I want to return it to the original plinth for starters. if that sounds good then I'm done. The opriginal appearance is attractive and I can bolster the plinth from underneath, so we'll see.It looks like i am going to needs to build up the cutout first, too, before moving the arm over.
The seller cleaned the motor for me, put on a new belt, and didn't add anything to the original $150.
The old boy tells me he gest Garrard 301's and TD-124's from time to time. He sold a 124 a couple of weeks ago for $250.
He also gets Empire's which he cleans the arm and mounts a cartridge, etc for $250!!!!!!
He does not like the Garrard 301's btw, too much rumble he says. hehe. I will talk trash about them as well until i get one from him.
I want to build a complete 301 or 401 before JD finishes his....just to show everyone it does not take 3+ years to DIY.
nice ...
What became of the tonearm? I like it.
It had some hardware for an arm but it wasn't an SME as far as I could tell from what was there when I saw it in the shop. He removed the hardware and it looks like an SME cutout ... and you can see where the original round hole was within that cutout.The arm was an Ortofon arm and it would be nice to return the table as it was originally, but the cutout changes that. I can booger it up with the Rega until I come across an old SME... Actually I might want to look for a heavy arm for a DL-103 ... been having a listen to Tubes' DL-103R this evening and I gotta get me one.
I found the picture at the link below. This guys has a nice selction of pictures of old Thorens, EMT, Telefunken, Garrard, Lenco, etc, etc.
~Slainte,
The OMalley
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