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In Reply to: The problem isn't in the CD and the problem isn't with digital itself... posted by olddude55 on September 14, 2006 at 14:52:52:
"Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
Happy listening,
Teresa
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There's nothing inherently wrong with a CD that makes it sound bad. The problem is quickie remastering jobs by "entertainment" companies that don't give a damn what the stuff sounds like as long as it turns a profit.
Most of my CDs have too much upper midrange harshness for my tastes, but not all of them do. Tift Merritt's Bramble Rose and Georgia Hard by Robbie Fulks both have truly fine sonics, well-balanced and smooth. You couldn't ask for better.
Don't get me wrong--my analog/digital ratio at home is about 99% analog to 1% digital, and it's a free country, you can listen to whatever you want--but there is a lot of good music, well-mastered with good sonics, available only in the digital format. It's a shame for anyone who loves music to miss out on it.
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and you may have a different opinion. I own copies of RR-22 "Copland's "Appalachian Spring" on both vinyl and CD. Keep in mind that at the recording session the mike feed is passed into the mixing console and split off of the same to the analog recorder(KOJ's focused gap machine) and to the digital recorder (Nakamichi DMP-100), so the recordings are identical except for the method of capturing the recording. On listening to each version the vinyl is superior in every musical way IMO. That is not to say the the digital is dreadful, far from it, it is just that the analog version is more musically engaging and faithful to the emotional content of the score, once again IMO.
I'm not arguing the superiority or inferiority of either format. What I'm saying is, when music sounds bad, bad mastering is usually to blame.
And remember that when it comes to popular music, it's processed anyway. The vocals are altered, the instruments are layered in, and the whole thing is processed. I'm sure that a good engineer who gave a damn could easily make a CD that sounded exactly like a top-quality vinyl LP.
They just don't. Who knows why.
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Neck Deep in the Big Muddy and the Damned Fool Yells, "Push On!"
A point with which I agree in general
And that is the ultimate goal of my web site and why I am so dedicated to reclaiming our music.
"Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
Happy listening,
Teresa
If only I could convince enough people to support my optical analog disc technology to get the ball rolling.
I already have readers wanting to buy your new optical read Analog format even before there is software. Tell me what I can do.
"Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
Happy listening,
Teresa
What we really need to do is to promote it to the hi-end record producers as well as the industry as a whole.
JFK would have lived out his term if only he'd stayed away from Dallas...New Orleans would still be whole if it hadn't have been for Katrina...I'd be retired now if the damned steel mill hadn't closed...
You can't go back in time and undo what's happened.
Besides, digital didn't "highjack" anything. Given the choice, consumers preferred the digital format over the old analog LP. They still do. Who cares? That's the mass market and the mass always has lousy taste.
We're only a niche market. Luckily for us, we're a highly profitable niche, or we wouldn't even be discussing this.
Anyway there's nothing to reclaim. We have our music. It isn't going away. There are more turntables on the market today than there were 35 years ago. Albums I never even laid eyes on back in the day now turn up regularly at the local used record store. We can buy from dozens if not hundreds of online sources that didn't exist in 1985, let alone 1975.
Take it from me, I'm an old guy. I've been messing around with this stuff since I was a ten-year-old kid.
It's better now than it ever was. These ARE the good old days.
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Neck Deep in the Big Muddy and the Damned Fool Yells, "Push On!"
by example. It still may happen yet, other engineers are re-discovering analog. It's too early to admit defeat.
"Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
Happy listening,
Teresa
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Neck Deep in the Big Muddy and the Damned Fool Yells, "Push On!"
Olddude, I believe you are totally correct.I say "I believe" because some will disagree. However, from my own observations over the course of several years now, I have come to the same conclusion as you.
Have a great one & enjoy the tunes. Be they analog, digital, electrically recorded, acoustically recorded, or perhaps on a device powered by God's own methane.
It's all good as long as you enjoy it.
...it wasn't me...it was the Holy Ghost!-Derek
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