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Superb! I am adding the graph and the links to 2 articles to my web site tomorrow. Bravo, please find more!

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In Reply to: Comparison of a Raw Analog Audio signal to the CD audio and DVD audio output posted by Vinyleer on September 13, 2006 at 18:59:58:

Thanks, this information is so clear, well written that anyone can understand it.
Tomorrow evening's update will have links to both articles �Is the sound on vinyl records better than on CDs or DVDs?� And �How Analog and Digital Recording Works by Marshall Brain� and the graph!
Thanks again!

"Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
Happy listening,
Teresa

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Re: Superb! I am adding the graph and the links to 2 articles to my web site tomorrow. Bravo, please find more! - Werner 22:57:10 09/13/06 (18)
"Thanks, this information is so clear, well written that anyone can understand it."
As others said, too bad it is incomplete, misleading, and wrong.

"Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
What's wrong with mathematics? Math can be outright beautiful.
- Boo Hoo I feel so sorry for you that you and they are wrong. I will be posting the correct information to my website - Teresa 00:49:23 09/14/06 (17)
  tomorrow evening.
  Did you have a good cry?
  
  "Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
  Happy listening,
  Teresa
  - Teresa: for someone that has an (R) for '"Reviewer/Press" - Scottrt 01:58:51 09/14/06 (1)
    ...after their moniker/name, you certainly keep a tenaciuos grip on your beliefs and dogmas. You could try being a little more open minded to other peoples ideas, and maybe your dogmas could learn new tricks.
    It's your choice...you can continue to stomp on anyone that holds a differing opinion to yours, but at least put a smiley emoticon at the end of your verbal strikes. Makes it read more friendly and less venomous....
    You're not venomous.....right ? ;^)
    Scott T
    - I stomped on no ones beliefs, if any stomping was done it was by Werner. - Teresa 09:50:04 09/14/06 (0)
      Everyone is free to believe whatever they want. I happen to believe what fits my own listening experiences. And those two articles Werner trashed describe analog and digital perfectly.
      Have you every seen my web site: analoglovers.com? It is not Digital friendly, I am not Digital friendly either. Digital does not play music for me and I do not give it lip service or a free ride. If you are able to enjoy digitized music that is fine, but do not push you preferences on others.
      
      "Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
      Happy listening,
      Teresa
      AnalogLovers.com (Open in New Window)
  - Re: Boo Hoo ... - Werner 00:59:07 09/14/06 (14)
    Tomorrow evening? So I'll have to wait till Monday for a good laugh?
    - Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? - Teresa 01:28:27 09/14/06 (13)
      "Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
      Happy listening,
      Teresa
      - Teresa-not "the truth", rather your perception of "the truth". - powermatic 05:20:31 09/14/06 (5)
        
        In Reply to: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? posted by Teresa on September 14, 2006 at 01:28:27:
        
        At some point perhaps you'll see the difference, and tone down your rhetoric.
        
        i hope she doesn't - OMalley 12:52:45 09/14/06 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Teresa-not "the truth", rather your perception of "the truth". posted by powermatic on September 14, 2006 at 05:20:31:
        
        and what is the truth but a mental approach anyway? don't talk about the truth.
        digital is a 'sample' bit by bit. that about says it all. and that's the truth.
        
        ~Slainte,
        The OMalley
        
        Two things..... - powermatic 22:47:26 09/14/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: i hope she doesn't posted by OMalley on September 14, 2006 at 12:52:45:
        
        "and what is the truth but a mental approach anyway?"
        since this makes absolutely no sense in any phonetic, physiological or psychological way, it explains a lot about your attraction to Teresa.
        "don't talk about the truth."
        First, don't tell me what I can or cannot talk about. Last I checked, this is an open forum. Then, carefully read the order of the posts. That's it. Note how dear, dear Teresa brings up the "truth" issue. See how I was merely responding to her "mental approach" to the truth? There ya' go! Wasn't so hard, was it? Reading comprehension is an often overlooked skill!
        Guess I'll "mentally approach" my bed.
        
        what are you getting all upset about? - OMalley 04:19:27 09/15/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Two things..... posted by powermatic on September 14, 2006 at 22:47:26:
        
        "since this makes absolutely no sense in any phonetic, physiological or psychological way, it explains a lot about your attraction to Teresa."
        psychological and philosphical: truth is relative.
        
        ~Slainte,
        The OMalley
        
        Perhaps I misinterpreted your tone, and if so, - powermatic 23:46:06 09/15/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: what are you getting all upset about? posted by OMalley on September 15, 2006 at 04:19:27:
        
        my apologies. I certainly respect your (and Teresa's) right to post your opinion(s) on this site.
        I think Teresa should corral her zealotry a bit-she seems to suffer no ones opinion but her own. That is what annoys me, not her enjoyment of the analog medium.
        FWIW, I've usually enjoyed your posts. Keep 'em coming.
        
        Thanks OMally and I totally agree. - Teresa 13:06:21 09/14/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: i hope she doesn't posted by OMalley on September 14, 2006 at 12:52:45:
        
        For my web site I search for the musical truth unlike the Digital brigade that does nothing but make excuses for why real world Digital doesn't sound as good as it is supposed to on paper.
        They cannot and will never fool me.
        
        "Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
        Happy listening,
        Teresa
      - Re: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? - Werner 01:48:44 09/14/06 (6)
        
        In Reply to: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? posted by Teresa on September 14, 2006 at 01:28:27:
        
        Not the truth, but what you are going to present as the truth
        to a guy who, oh ...
        -holds two master's degrees in related fields
        -worked with turntable manufacturer John Michell
        -designs his own anti-aliasing filters for CD production
        -designs his own phonostages
        -studied disk cutters and their circuits and problems into some detail
        -studied music mastering practices (then and now) in some detail
        -talks to cartridge designers from time to time
        -talks to mastering engineers from time to time
        -knows a thing or two about auditory perception (though not enough by far)
        -is involved with digital and analogue design every day
        -knows the sound of analogue and digital multitrack and mastering tapes in the studio
        -knows the difference between objective facts and subjective preferences (both are valuable and valid)
        -understands that 'audio' is one big misunderstanding
        -has respect for analogue/LP's achievements, despite its drawbacks
        -has respect for digital/CD's achievements, despite its drawbacks
        -understands that the medium or technology is pretty irrelevant provided one uses high production standards and displays competence at the recording/mastering stages
        
        Sweet dreams ...
        
        W
        
        "'audio' is one big misunderstanding"?? please expound /nt\ - arturo7 15:03:22 09/14/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? posted by Werner on September 14, 2006 at 01:48:44:
        
        bla bla bla
        
        can i have your autograph? [nt] - OMalley 12:50:58 09/14/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? posted by Werner on September 14, 2006 at 01:48:44:
        
        .
        
        ~Slainte,
        The OMalley
        
        Oh Dear ... - Jim E 07:23:13 09/14/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? posted by Werner on September 14, 2006 at 01:48:44:
        
        you protest a little too much ...!
        
        From Robert Harley's book "The Complete Guide to High-End Audio" p. 418 - Teresa 03:17:02 09/14/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Sorry it's too late now, almost bedtime. So you find the truth funny do you? posted by Werner on September 14, 2006 at 01:48:44:
        
        "the original waveform is recovered by smoothing the staircase with a low pass filter"
        To claim that Digital Audio does not recover an analog signal that is staircased is ludicrous. There is NO information between the samples in Digital, it is not continuous like analog.
        As to the other claims made in those two well-written articles that even a layman could understand. You are free to disagree with them, personally I do not as they explain what I heard from Digital perfectly.
        I choose to agree you are the one disagreeing with these two articles are you not?
        
        "Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
        Happy listening,
        Teresa
        
        you can choose to believe that dirt is good to eat - tunenut 10:41:40 09/14/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: From Robert Harley's book "The Complete Guide to High-End Audio" p. 418 posted by Teresa on September 14, 2006 at 03:17:02:
        
        you can believe whatever you want. If it makes you feel good. That doesn't mean it is the truth.
        The linked article is wrong sentence by sentence. There is barely a correct sentence in it.
        But you don't care about that. It "feels" right to you.
        Stick to reviewing music. Reviewing technical information is not a matter of opinion. That is what you don't seem to understand.
        
        Actually I do care, and because it describes exactly how analog and digital behave to my ears - Teresa 12:25:59 09/14/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: you can choose to believe that dirt is good to eat posted by tunenut on September 14, 2006 at 10:41:40:
        
        Also higher resolution digital was invented to increase the amount of samples per second to decrease the staircased recovered analog waveform. And the proof is high resolution digital does sound smoother than low resolution digital.
        Boy Oh boy sometimes you really take the cake, tunenut!
        
        "Analog is Music, Digital is mathematics"
        Happy listening,
        Teresa
YVW - Vinyleer 22:08:06 09/13/06 (0)
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