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In Reply to: Re: All kidding aside... Perhaps there is someone here that is handy with wood and would like to DIY them and report ba posted by Aleksunder on September 13, 2006 at 09:09:44:
An audiophool product is an audiophool product.My assertion had nothing to do with the cost of the knobs.
I agree that you have to be a freakin' nutcase to pay the money for that thing.My question had to do with investigating whether there were even a sonic change, in replacing stock brass, aluminum, or whatever knobs, with the wooden ones.
What can I say? As a tweaker at heart, I am willing to give anything at least one shot to show me its "stuff".
cheers,
Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
Follow Ups:
RayAt least with a $10k Phono Cartridge the designer / manufacturer could utilize very exotic/ extremely expensive materials, technologies and or manufacturing techniques that would influence established actual / rational performance perimeters.
I would think even a Shaman would look askance at the $500 Wooden Knob, then again the Spirit of the tree it came from might be really PO'd ;-)
RayI'd assume that the material the control knobs on a preamp for instance is constructed of, or it's mass, would seemingly have to be so far downstream of diminishing orders of magnitude, if indeed there were any effect or influence it would seemingly have to along the lines of -2.5 x 10 17th+, inaudible imperceptible and immeasurable to the point of
non existence, no ?Could the knob of an attenuator have any theoretical influence on the circuit ?
This is a job for Enid Lumley on Acid ;-)
Have you ever witnessed Enid Lumley on acid? ;-)Cheers,
Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
By virtue of some of Enid's theories I figured we're talking about
either very stiff doses of Blotter Acid and or Peyote ;-)
Based on my assumptions regarding the delusional limitations
characteristic of ordinary garden variety Schizophrenia ?
would be to remove all knobs from the signal path. Just bar switch handles. Adjust with a pair of plyers. The sound is much cleaner, loss of heavyness is sensed.Knobs pick up airborn vibration which is then imparted to the chassis which then is fed to the circuit via pcb or connections. This vibration or resonance, as we like to call it in the industry, can be tweaked with said knobs. Wood for a warmer sound, stainless steel for that cold detail. Removing the knobs altogether approaches neutrality.
We have a service where you can send your knobs to us and we will throw them out for $750. The purist approach, less is more, always costs more.
I know that tweaking footers, and placing items on top of chassis, change the resonance of a component and therefore manifest sonic changes.I was just wondering if changing knobs could possibly make the same sort of audible change? I find it difficult to believe that you can impart a "warmer" sound from a component by simply changing from metal to wooden knobs, for instance.
That being said, I have ear-witnessed what would seem the unexplainable, so I have an open mind on such things until proven otherwise.
So, that said. Anyone game at making a few DIY knobs for a couple of bucks and finding out?
cheers,
Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
But unless it's quite lucrative, you should be doing Marketing / Advertising for the Nose Bleed High End (Snake Oil/Wacko/ Psycho side of things)Seriously you have it down pat, Pat ;-)
I'll try the snake oil all day long until it starts costing me money.That being said, I offer the sweat equity of "auditioning" these gems.
Nothing more. :-)
cheers,
Close to the Edge, down by the river....
-Ray
see the post just above ... should i send him an invoice?
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