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In Reply to: About used records - people's reactions posted by kjd03842 on September 8, 2006 at 13:39:04:
Of modern consumers.
Your thirty-year-old records are 90% in Great Shape ?Most modern consumers can't even manage to, or pay attention long enough, to take care of DVDs or CDs that they bought in 2005.
It has become an ingrained understanding that "Maintenenance" and "Care" are Nineteenth-Century sort of standards that modern striving and progress seeks to eliminate from current 'quality of life' concerns.
Most people spend lots of cash on things like cellphones and laptops that they don't expect to last more than 2/3 years at this point. Cars are designed so that even trained mechanics are mystified by the microchip-controls, and the quarterpanels and bumpers of the past--- which could survive a low-speed collision and be pounded out ---- are now replaced by "exploding" styrofoam and poly panels that are meant to be removed and thrown into landfill.
As loyal first-world patrons of the Multinational Corporations, we here are pridefully entitled to redesign the world in our own f**Ked up fashion and then quickly throw it into the dumpster. Simply as a matter of market-driven progress. Oh, and if this f**ks up the rest of the world in the process, well, let them worry about it. It's our entitlement.
One opinion.
J.D.
Follow Ups:
..and they'll f- it up."
But "modern consumers" can't, by definition, be people who owned or recall vinyl records, since those people had to be adults or at least adolescents no later than about 1986 . . . or 20 years ago. So, we're talkin' here about people aged mid-30s and up.I dunno, maybe some of them bought into the throwaway ethos that you mention, too.
Personally, I think the recollected "bad" sound of vinyl was in part driven by cheap-ass playback equipment (from one end to the other) that contained nasty mid-to-HF peaks that emphasised any kind of click on the record and, of course, poor record care and, to a lesser degree, an inferior or worn out or misadjusted stylus.
That said, J.D.'s "90% good" figure is consistent with mine when it comes to used classical records that I have bought at estate sales and the like. The figure goes down sharply when it comes to rock and roll records . . . if you can find them at all.
My personal collection is closer to 100% good as new because I didn't start buying records until I was in college and my very first turntable was a new (and now venerable) AR XA with a Stanton 500E cart. I also religiously used the Watts "Dust Bug" whenever I played my records, didn't leave them lying around, stored them correctly and didn't do anything stupid like clean them with "record cloths." In retrospect, I'm amazed that I was so compulsive at the age of 19. It certainly didn't carry over into other phases of my life at the time!
if the percentage really is that high, it's partly due to some of the culls through the years.
But for the most part, my vinyl is in great shape, the jackets have fared a little worse. I didn't use plastic outer sleeves until after high school.
The percentage of good clean used is certainly VERY high, otherwise why bother? I buy them to listen to, so a beater first press Kind of Blue would not appeal to me.
Well, maybe a little.
is what keeps records available to me.I woant yew to put yur hayands oan the radio and pray with me naow.
All are welcome on the payath. But it is a narrow payath. Not oall may fit.
....maintenance-free.
Disposability and wretched excess, our birthright. Why have one pair of worsted wool trousers, when you can have six pairs of polyester/rayon blend. Why have one or two pair of well made leather shoes, when you can have fourteen pairs of EVA soled nylon throwaways? If you wore the same three shirts to work every day, people would think you crazy, right? We've got to buy all this cheap stuff so there's money left over to spend on ab-rollers and salad shooters.
I don't think you can responsibly list Ab-Rollers and Salad-Shooters without mentioning Tuna-Turners.Just a small point.
Gee, I just love Tuna Turner : )
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