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In Reply to: You're 1 for 2... posted by KT88 on December 17, 2005 at 10:56:29:
as some sort of authority I've got no problem with what you say, e.g. that his "... sonic analysis and weariness from tweaking are true to form", etc.For example an astute participant of this forum will have gained a good deal about you sonic preferences to *not* be surprised that, for example, the JD-100 and the JD9 *aren't* your top picks.
Nothing wrong with that, e.g. we have those that feel the OC9 is shrill and unlistenable who prefer the fatter/fuller 103 sound, those who feel the OC9 is excellent with a refined top end and great resolution across the band who prefer it over the fatter/fuller 103 sound. Similarly between a JD9 and a Rogue Stealth there would be divided opinion.
It's all good. But I do find it more than a little annoying when detractors of one sound vs. another come up with half-assed technical justifications, or attempt to come off as *knowing* authorities. Decency demands a little humility, a courteous IMHO, etc. Within those boundaries one can still project strong feelings and opinions.
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Back to the JD-100, IMHO, it does benefit from effort in tweaking, in particular the power cord and vibrational control. I found these to give me stable wonderful sound. If the hobby urge strikes I may be inclined to try some other tubes (e.g. EHs) but for now I really like the stock ones.
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That's pretty funny really. I mean, I hope you are not the "pot calling the kettle black" here afterall. I would appreciate it if you would simply consider my experience; how's that? :-)
You are correct that I have my preferences as do others but keep in mind that I also have the ability to do A/B comparisons with a plethora of products, all of which are at hands reach. I also have a very straightforward way of describing things as you may well have picked-up because I don't always just relate the good things about products that I sell but also their weaknesses if they have them. I definately go out of my way to defend products that I feel have been maligned unjustly and I don't feel that is unwarranted at all. It merely keeps everyone honest or informed, whatever the case may be. Being an open forum, you see that you are also welcome to disagree with anything that I may reflect from my experience. That does little to change my experiences, so IMHO may be appropriate in many cases.
In this particular instance which you have taken interest in, I do agree with the other posters opinion as being not only commensurate with my own, but also that of others and even with measurement. I did not agree with everything he said, so I hope you can see that I was being very straightforward and honest rather than slapping a "buddy" on the back. So you don't have to agree with either of us. Rather than question my integrity (forgive me if this was not your point) I would hope that you would simply add your comments and supporting argument.
I do understand your argument here about the beauty being "in the ear of the beholder" and I have said that many times myself here and elsewhere. I can never select a component for an individual or a customer but only provide them with my experiences and recommendations. I thought that I gave it a rather well balanced "micro review" here in response to comments made and so I am a little surprised by your response, but so be it. I wanted to point out the fact that it was indeed a true tube gain stage which has been an object of contention before. We can all take from it what we will.
-Bill
feet on the ground. I have noticed the odd poster likes to solicitor your opinion and then, after receiving the judgement, behaves as if he's gotten an answer from one who walks on water.BTW, regarding the "plethora of products" your not suggesting you change product lines as quickly as the stereotype fickle audiophile that makes changes monthly, are you?
Something occured to me after I posted my last message. Maybe you mistook the subject line of my post ("you're 1 for 2") as being a referal to the immediatly proceeding post or my discussing of both pro and con of the JD100 That was not why I titled it "1 for 2" at all, but rather because he had assumed that both the JD9 and the JD100 were tube buffered, when in fact only the JD9 is.
Anyway that aside, I do get a lot of private email from people who genuinely do respect my opinion or simply agree with it. That doesn't make me any form of diety surely. I am of most humble means yet have rather stong convictions when based on empirical evidence, which a personal visit to my shop would verify. It is nice to get some positive remarks from readers here yet I don't let it go to my head. I learn a lot from others also. I don't reflect that so much as I always prefer to try things for myself. That is why I am always advising people to go out and listen rather than trying to horde information and make decisions from text found online. You may or may not be surprised but I get a lot of people who visit my shop who have read some things that they take for granted and so have some preconceived notions of, yet then find them to be false after seeing or hearing first hand here. The Grado/Rega hum has to be my favorite "audio urban legend" as nearly everyone who hears a demo is struck by the quality of sound and lack of hum after reading so much about it. Some of my customers disagree about particular sonic favorites of mine and have their own. I try to listen to them and point them in the direction that I feel best serves their tastes and encourage them to listen to others just to keep their bias in check. For instance, I may favor a particular speaker and some customers simply like another. Everyone hears differently in regards to tone, I feel. Some people are also more sensitive to distortion than others.
As far as product line changes here, that is very far from reality. I have ditched only a few companies due to their being poor business partners or simply not having a reliable product (or both in two cases) while only a couple of others have fallen by the wayside due to a lack of demand for the product even though I liked it. I have been in business for 8 years and actually most of the lines that we offer have been here since the first year. I have added a few others every few years, but kept the list as short as possible. I don't like the trend of many online or mail-order houses that advertise a huge list of names and then not actually carry anything as it is both deceptive and self-serving. When customers arrive at our door they can expect to be able to hear much of what they see at our website and I actually have some in-store photos posted to prove that although they are a bit dated. When I say that I have a lot of CD players to compare here, I mean that we have no fewer than 11 on demo here right now.
-Bill
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