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I've long known about this LP and its reputation as a great sounding record. I've never run across one until recently. Aside from its musical value, is this an album worth owning for demonstration purposes? It's in VG++ condition and cover is NM. It's priced at $30 which is a little high for me. Opinions?
Thanks,
David
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The Dusty Springfield rendition of "The Look of Love" on this LP is excellent but the rest of the record is pretty boring. I would not waste your money.
Still cool and still doing good stuff and well into his 70s. Also, the Alpert stuff has to make you smile a little. Give it annother chance.
to the whole LP it is quite entertaining. It is a collectors item.Is everyone totally thrilled with every groove of every LP they own?
With the exception of the resoundingly overhyped "Look of Love" Casino Royale ranges from merely awful to unlistenable. Unless you really really love bagpipes, of course.
Overhyped Look of Love? Wow now that is being tough.I don't agree with overhyped at all. More like underhyped. I am a huge Dusty fan and you virtually never hear anything about this particular cut. It is if she almost never recorded the piece.
Without question, The Look Of Love is Dusty's finest moment, by a long shot. And it is also one of Burt's finest tunes.
Yes, the rest of Casino Royale is a stretch to say the least. It is a movie soundtrack. And if HP had never mentioned the thing, none of us would be discussing the topic. I don't believe anyone has ever given HP any award for taste in music. Look at his SuperDisc list sometime. May be audiophile manna, but most music lovers will run for the hills!
But the Dusty. Ahhhh, I am dropping it on the platter as we speak!
> > you virtually never hear anything about this particular cut < <Don't take this as an insult, but are you a relatively new audiophile? I can't think of another record that's gotten as much attention in the audiophile press, with the possible exception of Dark Side of the Moon . Casino Royale and especially "The Look Of Love" were mentioned in pretty much every review Harry Pearson wrote in TAS in the 1980s. "Look" was his most frequently used reference. Thanks to HP praising CR as one of the finest sounding records ever it became the Holy Grail of audiophile record collecting. Prices went up dramatically. There was such a demand for it that it was bootlegged at least once by some Spanish outfit, and Classic Records issued a 180g 12" 45 of "Look of Love."
I don't deny that "Look" is a terrific song and a great performance, but the rest of the album is completely forgettable.
feathers up. :-)
Calling Casino Royale a novelty record insults legitimate novelty records such as Alvin & the Chipmunks' Chipmunk Punk that at least are entertaining, something that can't be said of CR other than the Dusty Springfield song.
The Chipmunks or dogs barking or Bang Barroom blah blah blah are just as bad or worse but are collectable, maybe for their "badness" just like CR.Geez all I said was it is worth paying for as a collectors item, and it is like it or not. My mother gave me a set of sterling silver from my father's mother and it is worth a small fortune... but I personally think it is pretty ugly.
Cheers!
Need I mention the execrable Rough Trade? The stomach turns at the memory of their utterly derivative New Wave disco music.
There is only one groove per side per album.Unless it's an old Monty Python album with two grooves on one side.
And probably other exceptions. But
As a generality, two grooves.
both sides?I get your point but I was speaking biblically not literally. :-)
Why waste your money and valuable spinning time on audiophool garbage? $30 will buy a lot of decent music.
No? Oh. :-(
I picked up a M- copy for a buck many years ago. Played it once; bored me to distraction; sold it for $15 to some poor audioweenie schmo who actually bought into HP's pompous flatulence, and good riddance.
nice of you. I just lost mine in the corner somewhere. Of the four copies I have had three were given to me and I gave those on in turn.But audiosnobishness aside it is interesting to listen to at least once.
And you probably made more off of it than any other LP, no? :-)
"And you probably made more off of it than any other LP, no? :-) "Maybe, but I consider that just recompense for being subjected to such incredibly sucky music! : ) On the bright side, it helped place HP and The Obsolete Sound in perspective for me at a young age, and that’s priceless.
There are several versions, I have the original Cogems stereo, there is also a mono I believe and pressings from other countries, I have a Spanish one too.
Is it mono or stereo.
I understand that it's the mono that is superior, if you follow that sort of thing ;-)The stereo probably is not worth the money. Also, VG++ is a pretty low rating regardless.
The stereo copy is worth $30 and that's a good price. Unlike standard thinking of recordings in this era, the MONO version is worth much LESS.It's considered by many to be one of the great audiophile stereo pressings.
Who'd have thought that?
I like my mono copy, for what it's worth...
Hmm... I thought it was the MONO that was on Harry Pearson's superlist and not the stereo.As far as I know, he's the only reason this thing is worth anything at all. Musically it's a non-event, IMHO.
Not sure about that. Herb Alpert does the theme and then there's Dusty Springfield's contribution. Might be worth a listen.
Henry
Henry
but I've never heard an original.
There's also a 45 rpm version on Classic, but it's $150 . . . ouch.
Henry
Personally I don't do the 45 rpm thing. I hate constant flipping. It annoys me that a lot of new releases are split into doubles and have 2-3 songs per side. Besides, I actually like the sound of 33s better. At some point you've got to draw the line. I draw it at 33 1/3. There's plenty of great music available at that said rpm. Leave the flipping for others!
Pretty much the same here. Lifting the platter off, moving the belt from one pully groove to another. Not for me.
Henry
The Classic reissue (33 or 45) is not up to the oiriginal pressing on Colgems. When Classic first brought out Casino they only issued the title song by Dusty and Pearson (TAS) faulted that as being below the original in quality- loss of transients, etc. The original is well worth the money.
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