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Had a funny thing happen last night. I posted to a thread that must have been in the process of being archived. My reply is there, dated October 30, but the thread is archived - as I discovered when I went to add something this morning. In my first reply I was saying..."I have been using an M95ED for ages, and because of this thread, and a recommendation I got ages ago, but never followed up on, tonight I tried out the M91 which had sat for years with a broken stylus (the way I found it on an old TT) in my junk drawer
Not having a true M91 stylus, I used an M95ED stylus. The only difference I can see is the yellow plastic shape. It fits perfectly.
Listening to it is exciting. Certainly, it's at least as good as the M95. Maybe a little more forward sounding. I need to let it settle. Maybe it needs to break in again after so much idle time. Nevertheless, I have no urge to remove it. I'll let it stay for a good long test at least. Some details - it's the type of M91 that clips into a stainless steel frame, the frame being mounted in the headshell. I believe there were 2 types, the one I have, and a more conventional full bodied design. The arm I am using is an SME3009 series II.
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After a few LP's have passed under the M91, I am liking it more and more. Very open and easy to listen to.Thanks to those who recommended I try it ages ago, and apologies for not getting around to it earlier. To those wondering about it, I can now recommend it :-)
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Yes, I am cheap and lazy, but I really enjoyed it, esp. after I had my amp cleaned up and fixed and got some better headphone set. I thought it was LOUD, even before I had to take it down (it had died... at 17...18 of age!!..) for a newer Grado black, not even knowing "softer" carts even existed... The Grado IS quite musical to my ear, is very versatile and offers very deep bass compared to the M91. But the latter sounds, like you put it, forward, which I thought was great for rock music.
Yes, but not only rock. It seems fairly versatile, and I liked it extremely well when I played a James Taylor album for example. Not sure about full orchestras and classical yet. I need more playing time. If it doesn't prove to be an all rounder, I think I will have to finally get around to mounting a second arm on the turntable (a project I have been thinking about for quite a while) so that I can always have it ready to go.
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I've got one with a generic stylus (couldn't get my hands on an original yet) and it's a nice sounding cart. I specially liked the bass it pumped out when playing a Rare Earth album- big, fat, round bottom, the kind that makes you nod in approval and say 'this is what bass should sound like'.Having said that, I must admit it gets kind of lost in the cheap hazyness of my current 'table (my TD125 is 'retired' - it should be going in for service soon). I've also got an M75ED which does a lot better in this arm/table, but finding styli for it is almost impossible.
It seems to come forward a lot better than the M91ED, although it sounds rather compressed (not necessarily a bad thing, but it wouldn't represent, say, a full-scale orchestra accurately).
Another nice cart from the 'vintage Shure' series is the M55E.. you should be able to find vintage 40+ years old bodies in $5 junk turntables, and there's really no reason for them not to work. The stylus is still in production (.2 x .7 elliptical).
I used it for quite some time back when I still had the original Thorens arm on the 'table and it was a great match- big loose midrange, good highs and lows.
Still have a couple CDRs made with that 'table, and they sound gooood.
Give it a try, you might like it as well (it might be more of a vintage sound than the M91ED, but by no means less enjoyable).
BTW, thanks for posting on the original thread (I was the thread starter). Glad it made you dust off the M91ED, it's a tight little cart (I knew I wanted one since I heard a friend's Dual which came equipped with one, .. got mine on eBay for $5, still looking for a stylus). Isn't vinylphilia fun? ;-)
Look here for NOS original M75ed styli, if you're lucky they're still available (there was a limited supply of US styli a while ago):
http://svalanderaudio.com/shoppen/shopeng.php
Yes, this is the one.
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Hey I've got one of them too - an M75ED Type 2. I've never tried it though.Looking at the stylus, I'm sure the M95 stylus will fit if you trim the top off the yellow plastic. The good thing about these Shure stylus/carts is that the plastic trim does little or nothing to hold the stylus in position. It's mostly just a handle for insertion and removal. The stylus is positioned by the square section tube that slides into the cart body, and the angle and friction is all that holds it there.
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..trim the stylus, anyway. I was actually suggested I try that, with an N91ED stylus in an M55E body, and while it does fit, it looks kind of crooked, and the cantilever barely protrudes from the body- some of the Shure styli seem to have the square tube joined to the plastic grip at different angles than others, so make sure before you hack up a good stylus (which should still be usable afterwards in the original cart, but will look rather ugly).But yes it's most certainly an alternative.
You know what should fit an M75ED body? An N70B stylus. They're dirt cheap, the tip is spherical, but you can do a lot worse than an original Shure stylus. I actually took my cart to a store and tried to fit it and it would go in almost all the way, but not quite, and didn't really want to bust the cart or stylus.
But that thing FIT, I tell you. If I'd had a little more cash around I'd have bought the N70B stylus ($8, genuine Shure) and given it a couple touch-ups with a small file.. I'm sure I'd have been spinning in no time.
The original (I suppose) stylus in my M75ED is black with silver writing on the front, saying just Shure ED T2 - which is the same as the cartridge. The black plastic is about half the height of the M95 yellow plastic, but the square tube seems the same length and at the same angle.The only thing I cannot compare is the cantilever itself, as it is broken off on the M75. I can imagine it's fate as I observe scuff marks on the underside of the cartridge (back to bare metal on one corner - ouch !)
I may experiment as I have some older M95 stylii that I don't use anymore. This is because I let paranoia rule and after 12 months or so I tend to buy a new stylus - whether or not it needs it :-)
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As long as you get a good fit, and it doesn't come off at a weird angle, it should work. Just remember, you'll have to set up VTF as per the M95 specs.I wonder if Shure's exchange program still covers this model. I seem to recall I asked at one point, but can't remember what the answer was. I'd give it a try if I was in the US.
I cut the top off an M95 stylus, and it fits. I will need to mount it in a headshell and try it now. A project for next weekend(late Sunday here)...
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