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Kimber says "8tc should be used on woofers larger than 6"
and not needed for 6" or smaller, but try it"i have tried it on a few different stand mounted speakers with,
about 6" drivers, and some improvements were dramatic, but with
the speakers i kept it wasn't,if any, so i sold em.But now i am getting the Signums
anybody compared em??
i plan on getting better wires later but i have the enough 4tc for
the double run now, and can get the 8tc for under $100 but if it won't help...later, mark
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Why do people get stellar equipment, then strangle it with inadequate setup and cables? If you're going with Kimber products, the SF Signi demand the Bi-Focal XL.
because i have 4tc already and since i bought the speaker
i don't have the spare cash right now. but i can come up with
an extra $100 for the 8tc.
do u know where i can buy Bi Focal for $100?maybe not everyone is as wealthy as you, and the rest of us
has to purchase piece by piece
Anyone who builds up a high-end audio system can't be wealthy. It's taken me eight years to get my system to where it is today. I chose audio over other niceties like eating out, catching more Sharks games, going ot movies, buying better clothes, getting a new car, and taking trips. But it's a sacrifice I gladly make. The musical pleasure outweighs any of the other activities and material goods I just described.For what it's worth, I still live in the ghettos. My advice is to start off with entry-level stuff, then replace it one by one with super duper high-end stuff. Do NOT upgrade incrementally. For me, everything in between entry-level and super high-end was a waste of time and money. I got to where I am now by auditioning, auditioning, and auditioning. Keep trying stuff, until you know exactly what each one sounds like. Then, you can devise ways to pay for or trade up to what you really need and want. I budget for one, maybe two, major upgrades a year. In 1998, I got the ML No. 380. In 1999, I got the ProAc Response One SC. In 2000, I got Tara Labs The One IC. Earlier this year, I got the ML No. 360. And in between, I optimized the rest of the system by paying attention to the "little things," like speaker stands, powerline conditioning, room treatments, burn-in, anti-vibration devices, and NOS tubes.
The Kimber Bi-Focal XL is $2100 for an 8-foot pair, and is, IMO worth every penny. You won't believe what the SF Grand Piano and Totem Model One Signature sound like, when lashed up with this superlative cable. Aw hell, you won't believe what the little bi-wireable B&Ws, Dynaudios, Totems, PSBs, Eposes, and other speakers sound like, when used with top-notch gear like the Bi-Focal XL.
The Bi-Focal XL may cost nine times as much as the 4TC, but it really is nine times better. the Bi-Focal XL makes lesser cables sound crude, opaque, cloudy, muddy, confused, and harsh.
But if you have bi-wireable speakers, you really must do bi-wiring correctly. For this, I highly recommend a bi-wire set of 4TC. This is what held me for years, while I had several bi-wireable speakers in-house. In fact, I used that bi-wire 4TC set on my ProAc Response One SCs for over a year. Yeah, the 4TC sounds amateurish, compared to the refined and expensive stuff, but the 4TC is a phenomenal bargain, and will hold you over until you can afford those super-duper super-expensive cables.
Put it this way. If you stick with 4TC, you'll still be able to eat out, go to Sharks games, catch a movie, go on dates, look sharp at work, take classes and buy books, attend concerts, take a trip, AND enjoy your stereo.
then, u of all people, should understand.so why ask the question ??
The Signum deserves something better than either 4TC or 8TC. The 8TC does have stronger bass than 4TC but also, a more ragged less refined highs. If you plan to get better cables later and have enough 4TC for a double run then might as well split it into 2 pairs of cable and biwire your Signums with 4TC all the way.
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