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In Reply to: Green Mountain Europa's or Carolina Audio JSM's posted by Art V on May 31, 2003 at 04:03:50:
Pardon my ignorance, but HOW can the Carolina floorstander hit the highs with as much refinement and smoothness as a top-line tweeter from Morel, SEAS, Scanspeak, Hi-Vi, etc.Please educate me, as I'm unfamilar with Carolina's designs............
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The Jordan site indicates:1. Frequency response is stated as 40 - 20,000 Hz in free space;
2. The design is based on the aluminum foil cone flexing so that the inner/center/smaller portion handles the higher frequencies;
3. BTW, Ted has been working on this concept for decades;
4. This is currently the oldest privately owned audio equipment company.
Ronnie at Carolina Audio has worked with transmission lines for decades as well. His 2-way designs utilitize 1st order, externally mounted crossovers. He loves to talk, not e-mail.My old passive 8 inch Fried T-lines overwhelmed every room I tried them in until I set them up in a 20,000 cu. ft. chapel. There, using a 20 wpc NAD receiver, they opened up and sounded glorius. So good in fact that I couldn't bring them back home, so I made a donation to the church.
Rdc: How are your Jordan's breaking in and what are your impressions of them? Do they have "enough" bass? How big a room are they in? If it sounds like I'm looking for you to post a review, you're getting my message, LOL, and thanks.
It's obvious that I love these speakers and benefit from a friendship with Ronnie that allows me to learn so much from a seasoned speaker builder. I also value being part of an extended family of Fried Speaker Products listeners and fans around the country.I haven't released a review of the JTM's because I wanted to live with them for a couple of months and experiment with all of the variables that I have. This includes placement, wire types and compositions, and component changes. I also found the break-in period to be a couple week process. They just keep sounding better with time and use. Basically, everything Ronnie told me these speakers is true, but I am stubborn and must do my own homework.
I will say that the JTM's do produce a satisfying level of bass that would please most listeners in rooms that are not very large. I go back and forth on this issue only because I have a set of Fried Model O\3 subs and am very spoiled when it comes to deep, clean, bass. Running the JTM's off of the Model O\3 subs crossover is the best of both worlds. I think that relieving the Jordan driver of low bass duties enhances its fine mid and treble capabilities. I should really get the JSM sats to sit on my Model O\3's but I can't bear to part with my JTM's. Can you imagine a HT setup with JTM's in the front with JSM's in the center and rear? Or five JSM's with the Jordan 7" subs?
I believe that Carolina Audio's 7" Jordan subs paired with the JSM's would be all of the speaker that I ever wanted and needed for a long time to come. But I also believe that the Model O\3 (and C3\L-C\5) are classics that will hold the test of time. Life keepers.
To make matters even more complicated, in the next couple of weeks I will be receiving the new Fried Studio Valhalla's from Shayne Tenance of the new IMF. Obtaining these speakers has been a dream of mine since I started collecting Frieds some twelve or so years ago. These are not the same Studio's of the 90's, but an improved version. Minus the MARS curcuitry, midrange break-up, and forward brightness. I am also hoping to buy a pair of Carolina Audio's 6XL\2 shortly and place them next to the Studio's for extended listening comparisons on the same equipment in the same settings. Carolina Audio and IMF may be heading in different directions, and rather than choose one over the other, I have chosen both.
Hearing is believing. Check out Jordan's website for specs and graphs on the J92S driver. It does everything but the lowest octaves and is shielded. Carolina Audio's TL design does much to bring out the lower potential of the driver while the driver's engineering excels with the mids and highs. Bypassing the need for a crossover also has its benefits. Pose this question to Ronnie at Carolina Audio. In his designs he has used Hiquphon, Morel, Vifa, and many other driver types. In fact, his 6XL\2, a two way with a Vifa woofer and a Morel tweeter in a flat TL design very similar to the Jordan-based JTM, sounds just like the JTM but with greater bass extension.
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