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In Reply to: Re: Two Clarifications posted by Bombaywalla on May 30, 2003 at 09:28:45:
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You cannot say that something is similar to something which is superior and it is ok.It is wrong to make an assumption which is incorrect.
They are not similar in anyway to the Nautilus line or Martin Logans.
If we are going to do reviews, lets do them properly so future readers are not thinking: Hey I can save $4000 and get a pair of 604's instead of the N804's, after all they are similar.
Or lets scrap the review section and start a new one,
Subjective tests, In my opinion, Ignorant reviews welcome here.....Lets be objective when we review and honest. And quit trying to justify what we buy as perfect becuase in reality that is all we could afford and if we could afford more like I am sure if this poster could have, he would have bought the Nautilus series or Martim Logans and then his review would have probally stated "Far superior to the 604's. Cleaner more Open"............and so on.
But often we justify something that really is not because we try to convice our selves that more money will not necessarily get a better product which in the audio world is often not true.
As you spend you get better, and yes I believe there is a point of diminishing returns.
Omega14:6,You seem to have a bad attitude & a problem with comprehension!!
I never said that these speakers were similar to M-L or the N804. I listed all the speakers I auditioned in the "similar products" list because that is the template provided by AA. Later in my posts I clarified that I prefered the sound of the 604S2 to most other speakers (CDM9NT & all the M-L I auditioned in my price range). I still that & stick by my words. The N804 was clearly superior to the 604S2 - I admitted that too in one of later posts. Yes, budget contraints didn't allow me to buy the N804 but I feel that IN MY SYSTEM, I have a lot of good qualities of sound from the 604S2. The increase in openness, transparency, etc, etc that I would have gotten from the N804 but don't have from the 604S2 does not detract from the music IN MY SYSTEM.
I dislike the M-L systems I auditioned in my price range. They suck big time & to me they are inferior to the N804 & 604S2. They will always be so in my books! Yes, the M-L have much better mids & highs but as an overall sound delivery system they just don't cut it in my books. Your ranting up & down that they are superior OVERALL to the 604S2 sound will NOT make them superior in my books!
You like M-L speakers - so be it. You are allowed to like them & I'm allowed to dislike them. We agree to disagree. That's fine! I can handle that. You seem to indicate that every speaker costing more than the 604S2 must sound better than the 604S2. I disagree! You might disagree with me. Fine! Again, we to agree to disagree.
The point of the review is to showcase the sound of the speakers in my system the way I hear it. This is the underline thesis of ANY review - pro or private user. It is ALWAYS subjective & always has been.
I stick by my review. It + the later clarification posts are accurate. Just take a chill pill & stop harassing people!
But one thing. I do not have a problem with comprehension. "Similar products" as you put it, is very clear.Happy listening.............
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