Posted by Rich Brkich (D) on September 12, 2005 at 07:26:06

In Reply to: Re: VSM-M with stingray posted by andy12 on September 9, 2005 at 09:46:47:

I am not familiar witht he speaker cables you are using.... are these a Silver cable??? Solid core or stranded base design???

My inital inkling is that the speaker cables are possibly a significant problem.

If everything is directly plugged into the wall, some basic power conditioning and/or power cords can make a significant imporvement.

It sounds like the speakers are about 7.5 feet or maybe a little more apart. If so, I would try either moviung them a little coser to the wall behind them and/or a little closer together (about 6.5ft center to center).

One last question... what is the source (CD player? Brand/model?)

That is all I can think of right now. If the room ois really live sounding (sparsely furnished, large bare walls.... i.e. nothing in the room or on the wall to absorb and difuse some mid/treble info... this energy is going to be contained in the room with little dissapation leaving the speakers sounding somewhat lean no matter where you put them and things like cables will be very important in getting this to sound right)

Happy Listening,
Rich Brkich
Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison

• Re: VSM-M with stingray - andy12 11:17:29 09/19/05 (1)
  In Reply to: Re: VSM-M with stingray posted by Rich Brkich on September 12, 2005 at 07:26:06:

  Hi rich

  the cd player is audio analogue puccini, old model, the speaker cable is 9awg solid core silver, www.silveraudio.com, thanks for all the help
  
  

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  • Speaker cables are defeintely a problem... - Rich Brkich 08:55:23 09/21/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: VSM-M with stingray posted by andy12 on September 19, 2005 at 11:17:29:

    a 9 gauge solid core silver (in my experience) is a cable that can make the speaker sound a thin and bright. This type of speaker cable is quite clear sounding, but the balance is all wrong.

    Ideally, a single wire run of Cardas Golden Reference is the best (also quite expensive, but not grossly more expensive than the cables you have). If your speaker cable runs are not too long (around 3m or less), excellent alternatives are Cardas SE-9, SE-11, Neutral Ref single wire, or Audience Au24 single wire.

    This will not be a small difference... the VSM-Ms will clearly show up the difference between cables... the speaker in general, work best with copper based stranded wire designs.

    Some other thoughts:

    If you stingray is configured in Ultralinear mode and not switchable between triode and Ultalinear, I woul suggest sedning the amp to Manley lbas and have them add the triode/Ultralinaer switch option to your unit (cost around $250 - $300 I think).... In triode mode the Stingray is fuller and sweeter and still quite punchy...though you loose some power in this mode you will find the combo to be allot of fun and very musical.

    Get some similar interconnects to go along with the speaker cables I suggested.... Some Audience Au24 or some pairs of Cardas Golden Ref if you can afford it will get things sounding more connected and balanced.
    
    Happy Listening,
    Rich Brkich
    Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison
    
    

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