Posted by Ethan Winer (M) on March 30, 2007 at 11:34:30

In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Ethannnn on March 29, 2007 at 18:40:27:

Ethan,

> I'm only concered about improving sonics within the room ... am I a good candidate for green glue? My mind tells me making a room less resonant is a good idea <

I do not recommend Green Glue for you. Its a great product! But it's meant to increase isolation. The best way to reduce resonances inside the room is with bass trapping. You can never get rid of all of it, but the more traps you add the closer you'll get.

--Ethan

• Re: Advice for new construction - Ethannnn 19:11:23 03/30/07 (6)
  In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Ethan Winer on March 30, 2007 at 11:34:30:

  Thanks Ethan, have you ever heard of a material called "wall damp?" It's made by Acoustic Sciences. It's a double sided adhesive material to be placed between the wall stud and drywall. It seems this would reduce resonance without increasing wall mass. Does this seem more appropriate for my application? Regarding bass traps, is it customary to have one at each corner?

  Ethan.
  
  

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  • Re: Advice for new construction - Ethan Winer 13:03:56 03/31/07 (1)
    In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Ethannnn on March 30, 2007 at 19:11:23:

    Ethan,

    > have you ever heard of a material called "wall damp?" <

    Again, what you need most is bass trapping, not wall damping. Now, if you have interiors walls that are not filled with fiberglass, that can be a problem. In that case you should either remove the sheet rock from one side and fill it with fiberglass, or use blow-in insulation. But this is in addition to bass traps, not instead of them. Understand that the resonances you need to damp are those that occur inside the air of the room between the opposing walls. Not so much the wall vibrations themselves.

    --Ethan
    
    

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    • Re: Advice for new construction - Ethannnn 06:04:31 04/02/07 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Ethan Winer on March 31, 2007 at 13:03:56:

      Got it... thanks!

      Ethan.
      
      

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  • Re: Advice for new construction - Bruce B 00:16:59 03/31/07 (3)
    In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Ethannnn on March 30, 2007 at 19:11:23:

    The ASC wall damp is much too overpriced for what it does. Green Glue does better. I did an all out assault. I actually applied acoustical caulking on every stud/joist. I put blocking every 4 ft. I used R-22 Roxul, I built another wall with blocking/roxul/wall dampening/damped resilient channel/drywall/Green Glue/drywall/703. It's a room within a room. See my gallery!
    I (the designer Rives) put bass trapping the whole perimeter soffit and all 4 corners. There's even bass trapping on the front wall. Almost 1/3rd of the cubic space of the room is bass trapping!

    Regards,
    Bruce
    
    

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    • Re: Advice for new construction - Ethannnn 07:59:57 03/31/07 (2)
      In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Bruce B on March 31, 2007 at 00:16:59:

      Hi Bruce,

      That's an impressive layout. Can you tell me how large your room? Do you have any pictures of the finished product? Lastly, can soffits be converted into bass traps? I'm starting to think by looking at your plans that while greater mass walls reflect more bass energy, if there are enough bass traps, they cancel each other out and that is the ideal environment. Is that about right?

      Thanks,

      Ethan.
      
      

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      • Re: Advice for new construction - Bruce B 19:08:30 03/31/07 (1)
        In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Ethannnn on March 31, 2007 at 07:59:57:

        No... not finished yet. We're laying the floor this week and the contractors have already started putting up the finished maple diffusors/ceiling panels and such. The rest of the wall gets covered by fabric over 1" 703 by the company Snap-tex.
        The Mastering room is 22 x 13 x 10.5, the Control Room is 17 x 13 x 10.5 and the voice over area is 12 x 5 x 9
        Finished soffits can be gutted and made into bass traps for sure. Like Ethan said, you can never have too many bass traps!

        Regards,
        Bruce
        
        

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        • Re: Advice for new construction - Ethannnn 06:13:16 04/02/07 (0)
          In Reply to: Re: Advice for new construction posted by Bruce B on March 31, 2007 at 19:08:30:

          Thanks Bruce, I'll check back to look at your gallery. I'll also incorporate bass traps in my soffits and corners as well.

          Ethan.
          
          

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