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In Reply to: Re: Is He Accessible? posted by Pat D on April 15, 2007 at 10:52:39:
Pat D-Cake,Stop trwisting the truth you know that "well designed" as used by Aczel does in fact apply to a specific set of criteria for audio. In fact is his "review" of the AudioDigit Class T-Amp Aczel said:
The Sound, As I have pointed out innumerable times, a properly designed amplifier has no sound of its own. It is impossible for two amplifiers to sound different at matched levels if each has high input impedance, low output impedance, flat frequency response, low distortion, low noise floor, and is not clipped. The MC8x100 is a special case because of its peculiar THD+N vs. power curves, allowing considerable high-distortion output beyond the clipping point. The expectation of some sonic anomalies is therefore not altogether unreasonable. For a quick check, I connected the amplifier to a pair of floor-standing wide-range speakers of decent quality (Sony SS-K90ED’s), with channels 1 and 5 feeding left and right. I thought I heard a few subtle, momentary sounds I didn’t like. An ABX comparison with a conventional amplifier of comparable power would definitely be in order. That takes time, and I want to post this already delayed review forthwith. I’ll do the ABX tests later and append the results here when I am done. (Don’t expect anything revelatory.)
Click on link below for access to the complete context of Aczel's words....
Thetubeguy1954
Follow Ups:
No, I am not at all twisting the truth, you are just confusing things again. I have often pointed out that you confuse universal and particular propositions.I have stated that "well designed" does not imply any specific requirements. That is a general consideration and I'm sticking to it.
If all you want to know is what Peter Aczel meant by a "well designed" amplifier, by all means read what he says and figure it out. But that isn't the question you asked. Peter Aczel is only one individual and others may and do have different design criteria met to meet different goals, as several here have pointed out. And this is a point you resist. Just considered by itself, the phrase "well designed amplifier" is rather vague and one needs to have more detail before it is really very meaningful in a given situation.
I suspect you are upset that your amplifier (which is in your opinion a "world class" tube amplifier) does not meet Aczel's requirements for a well designed amplifier. Too bad. Get over it.
My second suspicion is that you would then like to accuse Aczel of misusing the English language, and are further upset that you can't get anyone to agree with you, even those who have different conceptions of what they would consider a well designed amplifier. Most people see that "well designed" can be interpreted in different ways for different purposes. But Peter Aczel has been pretty clear (even for you) about what he expects of a well designed amplifier. You don't seem to share those expectations and there is no particular reason why you should if you don't want to. Others have still different things in mind.
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"Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony."
------Heraclitus of Ephesis (fl. 504-500 BC), trans. Wheelwright.
Pat,Quit it you're killing me I'm laughing so hard! You're so desperate to be correct at all costs, that you're attempting to over complicate a simple question in yet another lame attempt to be the intelligent debater and philosopher. Remember Ray Liotta GoodFellas? I can just picture him looking at you and saying "You're a funny guy!"
Here you are assuming once again. I think the real problem is YOU'RE the one who is jealous, not me. I think it just eats at you that you don't own a world class amp like the Mastersound, and thus this creates your innate need to respond negatively to almost everything I say. Which in turns feeds your obsession with believing I'm upset because my amp doesn't meet Aczel's opinion of what and when amps will be inaudibly different. Heck if I wanted anything like that I could go and buy something like you own! I think I'll stay with what I have and love. After all it's served me so well these last 5 years why change now?
Pat I'm sorry you're so unhappy with your system. But like you told me too bad. Get over it or buy a real audio system. The choice is yours... Oh yes if you believe Aczel's fairy tales I hear Grimm Brothers makes good reading as well. The reality is if you were 1/2 as happy with your system as I am with mind you wouldn't be so obsessed with me and everything I say. Every notice how seldom I respond to your posts unless of course it's because your obsession has led you to respond negatively (either directly or through others) to something I've said in one of my posts and then I respond back to you? It quite clear that I can leave you alone and let you print what you want, but you being obsessed with me and unhappy with what you own cannot do the same with me, no matter how much I wish you would.
Have a nice day...
Thetubeguy1954
That's the main question you pose. It is general question and covers a lot more than just the views of a particular individual.
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"Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony."
------Heraclitus of Ephesis (fl. 504-500 BC), trans. Wheelwright.
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