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In Reply to: Re: Too funny. Good one BJH. lol. This is a "containment site". :o) yer funny. nt posted by andy19191 on April 12, 2007 at 02:00:12:
A191 - Speaking as someone with a viewpoint far, far removed from that of bjh, I also view this as primarily a containment site and one that seems to work reasonably well in limiting the damage of a scientific view on many of the other boards.
Only a lunatic would expect a serious scientific debate on a site designed to be attractive to those that hold beliefs that are often in conflict with the scientific view. Any rational person would go off to a site that was aligned with their interests."Subjectivists" come here to sell their viewpoint to "objectivists" and "objectivists" largely do likewise but with the odd technical enquiry thrown in now and again.
I agree with you, but what about the "objectivist" who sees it as pure entertainment? Isn't that why you're here as well?cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
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> I agree with you, but what about the "objectivist" who sees it as pure
> entertainment?A fair point, indeed an omitted category. A bit like watching a really bad movie, healthily entertaining in small quantities but not in large quantities.
> Isn't that why you're here as well?
For personal reasons, my initial objective was to learn about audiophiles in order to understand people gripped by alternative medicine which has a similar belief system and industrial support. Because of my job and training I know what is going on technically with the former but with the latter I could not confidently separate the small amount of fact from the large amount of fiction. Later I found the audiophile phenomenon interesting in its own right both as a puzzle and as an aid to understanding how and why society is increasingly evolving away from something that served my interests well.
After steady progress, since the last significant chunk of insight I have not been learning much and, indeed, I have several times playfully wound up several of the more robust "subjectivists" without a real intention to prod for information. But when does playful become teasing and then bullying?
A191 - But when does playful become teasing and then bullying?I'm gonna kick your stereo systems arse if you keep talking to me like that punk.
cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
Hello Andy19191,I appreciate your candor in this post. After reading your statement: "I have several times playfully wound up several of the more robust "subjectivists" without a real intention to prod for information. But when does playful become teasing and then bullying?"
I think I might have a possible answer that you can take or reject as you see fit. I may have been one of those "subjectivists" whom you playfully wound up, as you put it. In regards to your question "...When does playful become teasing and then bullying?" I'd like to respond that playful becomes teasing and then bullying when the recipient of that "playful" action feels like it's teasing and bullying.
I know Pat D disagrees with that assessment and feels some people are too sensitive. But I ask who are we to determine where another person's level of sensitivity should reside? Consider African-Americans and the N-word. Most educated people would agree it's not right to address them with this word. Even though they routinely use that word amongst themselves we still agree other non African-Americans shouldn't use that word. Why? Because we understand what many of these people and their ancestors went through and why it's offensive to them.
The problem when addressing people in forums on the internet is we have no idea of what they've gone through in their lives. Were they sexually, physically or mentally abused as children, who knows? Seeing as there is no way we can know, we need to be sensitive enough to accept someones word when they say your "playful" actions are received as being teasing and bullying to them. We cannot dictate where another person's level of sensitivity should reside when we have no understanding of what life has dealt them. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it.
Thetubeguy1954
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