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In Reply to: Amazing tool for exploring music posted by demian on December 26, 2005 at 19:27:08:
As I have been recording some internet radio stations 24/7, I know I have some more samples of suggested matches to check out. I'm amazed at some of the connections I never would have thought of. I agree with the other poster... too bad it can't be streamed though my SB2 :(
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
I agree it is really cool...You can stream it to the hard drive, and then replay the file later on the SB. This loses the individual titles and creates one big file, unless your recorder is "smart" and disconnects with an adjustable period of silence. If you need hints on how to do that, reply.
Bob
Would be nice if individual song files could be made so as to identify what is what, assuming the files would be tagged accordingly. It's just that using Pandora means sitting in front of the computer to listen which is not really my thing...
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
I can tell about my experience with two programs that allow for recording internet streams. They both allow you to designate the "source" of the stream, usually the sound card in the PC, or "windows default". The first is RIP Vinyl, which is very easy to use and cheap at $11. USD. It allows one to set level and time for when to "break the stream" and make a new file. It is intended to record a a side of vinyl and automaticly create individual tracks based on using silence between tracks. It can do the same thing for streamed internet songs that has silence between the tracks. see here for more detailshttp://www.ripvinyl.com/
The other program I use has a lot more flexibility, and allows auto time based wake up and recording of local (with an FM tuner) or internet streamed FM radio broadcasts. It more expensive but worth it at $20. It will also allow for automatic breaking of streams based on silence between tracks, with an autoname function.http://www.cooolsoft.com/mp3rec.htm
Note, neither one will log and insert the track names, but both will give you a designated file folder full of individual songs.
Both allow for options of conversion in storing the songs. I assume both methods have conversions from compressed to .wav involved. That is, the data is streamed compressed, then converted to wave, and then stored however you want it, wave or mp3 (you select the compression). I have used both programs and can verify they work fine. You can also see other reviews of them, or find other similar programs at www.download.com
Last, if you need to edit a file, the best free program to do that is Audacity.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
good luck, and happy new year to all !
Bob
Thanks for the info, will check it all out for sure to see if I can record the Pandora streams. Perhaps listenng to the streams then and there is more appropriate then recording them and playing back later. We'll see...FWIW - I use Stationripper to rip and breakdown your basic internet radio stream. It too creates a file for each station being recorded (can record multiple stations at once, supposedly 600 with the pay for version!) and applies a file name for each song file, though the file name is, from what I can tell, determined how it is input by the streamers end. I can get the same song but with slightly different names (due to mis-spellings, etc). The nice thing about Stationripper is that it won't record the exact same file name twice, so duplicates is not really a problem. Only problem is that one song may have a second or two of the last one attached to it. Since I use this as a means to check out new stuff, it doesn't bother me. If I have enough tunes from one artist that is worth making an "album" of, then I might be inclined to edit those tracks to fix that.
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
Hi Marc;I also use Station Ripper, I broke down and bought the legal copy.
Unlike the other's mentioned above, it saves the raw MP3 files.
If you right click on the station while streaming, under "file splitting", you can "pad around split point" a few seconds, or delay the switchover (at the top) from when the name changes.Beware, though, this option seemed to want to stay engaged for me even after I zeroed out the times. I may have done something wrong, but my fix was to uninstall, delete the file directories (saving the songs) and re-install. It certainly is possible there was simply a file that needed to be deleted. If anyone else had this problem and and the fix I'm all ears.
I use this program to decide what music I want to go ahead and purchase, and then delete all ripped files from my hard drive in a short amount of time. I've seen the legality argued both ways. Apparently the law is clear on recording analog content, (you can) which made legal VHS TV and FM recording. But apparently less clear and open to discussion for digital content. If TIVO like devices provided by cable companies record digital content TV shows, why are internet audio stations any different? And why would recording my FM stations (analog) digitized to my sound card be OK, while internet streams not?Bob
I didn't know about file splitting options!! Thanks so much for pointing that out!! I'll certainly play around with the different settings available to see what works best.I dunno about all the legal issues. I don't copy or sell what I download, just use it my personal use at my leisure. Since I buy new music on a regular basis, I don't feel bad about playing some tunes I know I won't be buying.
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
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