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In Reply to: You're way wrong. posted by Howie on April 19, 2005 at 07:53:07:
Perhaps you are correct. Tell me where to audition a pair in the Washington, DC, area or Baltimore or NYC or CT, and I will eventually get there. Until then, I do have to use my "imagination" based on what I can learn about the circuit design. But it sounds like you are talking about the hybrid hi-power tenors, not the all-tube OTL ones. Have you heard both?
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I'm also in DC--don't have the Tenors, but have got Joule Electra VZN-160s if that's an itch you ever want to scratch.
Heard 'em many times. Great amps, but I like my (highly modified) Atma MA240s better. I'm not the least bit itchy to change my amplifiers, just curious about the Tenor OTLs, because there is a gulf between what they appear to be on paper and what users say they sound like.
The guy who sold me the Joule's also owned the Tenors at one point and liked the Joule's better. I think he was listeing to them with a Kharma speaker at the time.
Hello DaveCould you explain me how work the VZN-160's with your Merlins?.
At this moment I am using a Berning ZH270 with a Joule LAP-150 but I am considering to order in few months a VZN-100 or VZN-160 for my Merlin VSM-MX speakers, and I have serious doubts about what ones could be a better option since I listen mostly to classical orchestral music and my room is about 30 squared meters in size.I am a bit confussed since I have got mixed opinions from persons who I thought should mostly agree. Rick Brkich says, in a thread started by myself some months ago in the speaker forum, that with VZN-160s on the VSMs there is a greater sense of ease and punch. Bass definetion and control are a touch better as well. As one may guess, large scale works are quite impressive with VZN-160 VSM combo.
Jud Barber thinks also that the VZN-160's are the better option for my case but the VZN-100's would work OK too.
However, when asking to Bobby Palkovic, he said me that "the vzn 100 actually sound filler and would be a better match in some
ways. no problem with size of the room. the 160s have a lower output
impedance and the sound would have less upper bass. the 160 is for a
different kind of speaker and not needed for the vsm".So, what should I do?. I cannot listen to both amplifiers to decide for myself, and I thought that may be you have had the possibility to listen to both the VZN 100 and 160's and then your opinion would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I would be interested in your bernng when you are ready to sell. please email me. I can probably work around your time frame.
Hi Pep,I've heard the Berning along with my VZN-160s with the Merlins. Honestly, I've never heard the VZN-100s with them. It just happened that a good deal on the 160s popped up on Audiogon so that's the route I went. Unless your room is huge, I might stick with Bobby and go with the 100s and spend the extra money on the Musicwood enclosures rather than the extra power. If as you say the 160s do sound less full in the midbass, that would be the best reason for me to go to the 100s (although I'm not sure how that makes sense--but I'm not a designer :-). Sorry I can't be more help.
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