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In Reply to: Re: Eighty Eights' Jazz SACDS posted by Dr.Jazz on April 19, 2007 at 08:27:04:
BTW, I don't have many of those SACDs. The ones folks feel are the best amongst what has been released from them pale in comparison to Chesky, APO, MPS/Verve and other jazz SACD recordings I have using the XA777ES. I didn't feel the need to try more and I agree there isn't much improvement over the 20 bit remasters.One of the overall problems with migration to SACD with jazz is that so many recordings have been remastered a number of times and in many cases at a much lower cost than buying the SACD and then an additional player. Now I'm not saying I question the sound quality of SACD but many folks have high quality CD players already and if they can get 90 to 95% out of what they would from SACD by buying those CDs and at a much lower cost without having to buy another player...
I think I may try one of the Keepnews Collection remaster recordings recently released at a low price. I'm curious about them. Here is a link to one: http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=2677
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I've gotten rid of many Fantasy SACDs, because the mastering is often inferior to other CD reissues of the same albums.The DCC Gold CDs are usually the best digital version to get, but they are OOP and quite expensive ($30-50). For other albums, the XRCDs (mastered in the US in case of many Riversie sessions) are usually superior to the Fantasy SACDs.
I wouldn't count too much on the new Concords CDs, as the remastering work by Rudy Van Gelder and Joe Tarantino is decent at best. The problem with these reissues is that the initial OJC CDs already sound very good and have bonus tracks.
I got rid of many of the DCC gold and other prior versions of these OJC titles (well, I gave them to my brother) because my determination was the opposite of yours. Especially on such releases as Gil +10, Art Pepper + 11, Benny Carter Jazz Giant, etc. The Gil + 10 SACD is undeniably the best digital version, not even open to debate. Some of the others I can see your point and hear that the DCCs do some things better, but I still prefer the SACDs overall for the detail and dynamics.
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Thanks for the prior post with the experiences you have had with those SACD recordings and CDs. Much appreciated.
I have a couple of these JSACDs.From the point of view of sound quality, I particularly like the piano trio discs (Don Friedman, Great Jazz Trio), which sound very natural, dry and closeup, in the best audiophile sense.
Also very good are the two discs with acoustic quartet or quintet recordings by Eddie Henderson and Roy Haynes. Musically they are straightforward and a bit routine-like (as happens so often with sessions on japanese audiophile labels).
The SACDs by Ravi Coltrane and Joe Chambers sound a bit too overproduced for my taste (sonically).
You should not wait too long before getting the Eighty Eights SACDs, because most of them seem to be OOP (the same titles are also sold on LP and CD). I got mine a few months ago from HMV.co.jp
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