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There aren't alot of reviews out there on sacd.net. I would like to know how you feel about these recordings for sound quality overall versus perhaps what you have that has been released on Fantasy, APO, Chesky, etc.I see a number of titles I would be interested in for the music but considering the price, I would like to get some feddback. TIA!
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I have the albums from 88's noted below.While they are all well recorded, I would say the soundstaging and presence, esp of the trios is good, but not excellent. The Clark Terry album is excellent in this reguard however. But when you factor in the price, I would concentrate on other labels first unless there is a specific artist that you really want or the price comes down.
I have a number of regular cds that sound as good as some of these, esp recordings from Mapleshade, Capri, Telarc, Chesky, Mosaic and a few small specialist labels. The Fantasy SACDs (jazz) in general are not that much improvement over quality 20 bit remasters, thought there are a few exceptions.
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Friedman, Don Timeless VIP Trio SACD Eighty-Eight's VRCL 18817 SACD 10/14/2003
Henderson, Eddie So What Eighty-Eight's VRGL 8806 3/13/2002
Jones, Hank Trio The Great Jazz Trio: Autumn Leaves SACD Eighty-Eight's SACD VRCL 8808 5/12/2002
Jones, Hank Trio The Great Jazz Trio: Someday My Prince Will Come SACD Eighty-Eight's SACD VRCL 18815 5/12/2002The Lonnie Plaxico Group: Live at Jazz Standard SACD Eighty-Eight's VRGL 8812 SACD 1/29/2003
Terry, Clark Friendship SACD Eighty-Eight's SACD VRGL 8805 3/10/2002
BTW, I don't have many of those SACDs. The ones folks feel are the best amongst what has been released from them pale in comparison to Chesky, APO, MPS/Verve and other jazz SACD recordings I have using the XA777ES. I didn't feel the need to try more and I agree there isn't much improvement over the 20 bit remasters.One of the overall problems with migration to SACD with jazz is that so many recordings have been remastered a number of times and in many cases at a much lower cost than buying the SACD and then an additional player. Now I'm not saying I question the sound quality of SACD but many folks have high quality CD players already and if they can get 90 to 95% out of what they would from SACD by buying those CDs and at a much lower cost without having to buy another player...
I think I may try one of the Keepnews Collection remaster recordings recently released at a low price. I'm curious about them. Here is a link to one: http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=2677
I've gotten rid of many Fantasy SACDs, because the mastering is often inferior to other CD reissues of the same albums.The DCC Gold CDs are usually the best digital version to get, but they are OOP and quite expensive ($30-50). For other albums, the XRCDs (mastered in the US in case of many Riversie sessions) are usually superior to the Fantasy SACDs.
I wouldn't count too much on the new Concords CDs, as the remastering work by Rudy Van Gelder and Joe Tarantino is decent at best. The problem with these reissues is that the initial OJC CDs already sound very good and have bonus tracks.
I got rid of many of the DCC gold and other prior versions of these OJC titles (well, I gave them to my brother) because my determination was the opposite of yours. Especially on such releases as Gil +10, Art Pepper + 11, Benny Carter Jazz Giant, etc. The Gil + 10 SACD is undeniably the best digital version, not even open to debate. Some of the others I can see your point and hear that the DCCs do some things better, but I still prefer the SACDs overall for the detail and dynamics.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
Thanks for the prior post with the experiences you have had with those SACD recordings and CDs. Much appreciated.
I have a couple of these JSACDs.From the point of view of sound quality, I particularly like the piano trio discs (Don Friedman, Great Jazz Trio), which sound very natural, dry and closeup, in the best audiophile sense.
Also very good are the two discs with acoustic quartet or quintet recordings by Eddie Henderson and Roy Haynes. Musically they are straightforward and a bit routine-like (as happens so often with sessions on japanese audiophile labels).
The SACDs by Ravi Coltrane and Joe Chambers sound a bit too overproduced for my taste (sonically).
You should not wait too long before getting the Eighty Eights SACDs, because most of them seem to be OOP (the same titles are also sold on LP and CD). I got mine a few months ago from HMV.co.jp
...if Ishimaru still stocks them. Over the next few week's I'll post the reviews. Does not help you now I know, but it all adds to the body of knowledge on SA-CD.net nonetheless.
Wondered around Akihabara today and of course spend some quality time at Ishimaru 3 :-) , but I also found that as opposed to last year Yamagiwa no longer stocks SA-CD (I seem to recall they had a reasonable selection before). So, it Ishimaru the only one left?
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