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In Reply to: Re: Update on the Yamaha DVD-S1700 Universal player. posted by The Sound Guy on March 12, 2007 at 21:12:32:
I thought it was only cheap players that did this. The Yamaha is a $450.00 player, not expensive like the DVD-S9000ES or the Xindak SCD-2, but not cheap like awful sounding $129.99 on sale Pioneer universal I tried from Best Buy for 2 weeks.The Toshiba did not play SACD, it was DVD-Audio / Video and HDCD.
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The copy claims it uses 192/24 DACs. These are PCM DACs. I doubt it has extra additional circuits for the DSD bitstream. It probably converts to high rate PCM and uses the same DACs that it has for CDs and DVDs. And it's not just cheap players that convert to PCM- many players at much higher prices also do this.At any rate, that is all the realm of the designer of the unit and should not be of any concern to the listener. The end result is what matters, not the internal design that gets there.
Information is sketchy on the Yamaha; I bought it locally knowing I could return it if I didn't like it, which I have done many times before.My manual does list the 24 Bit 192kHz internal DAC's but it only lists the frequency response as follows:
DVD fs 96kHz - 2 Hz - 44 kHz
DVD fs 48kHz - 2 Hz - 22 kHz
CD fs 44.1kHz - 2 Hz - 20 kHzIt doesn't list the frequency response for 192kHz DVD-Audio or SACD.
If DSD is converted to high rez PCM it doesn't sound PCM'ish, but even 44.1kHz doesn't sound PCM'ish so it very well could convert and you are correct it's the end results that matter. How music sounds, and this is very musical and enjoyable.
"Music is love"
Teresa
I'll see if I can find one in my travels and give it a listen. Especially when I know you don't care much for CDs! :)
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