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Nine Inch Nails- Downward Spiral
CD- 2212
SACD- 440
Dualdisc- 1175Snow Patrol- Final Straw
CD- 140
SACD- 190,319
Dualdisc- 171,365Keane- Hopes and Fears
CD- 77
SACD- 25,737
Dualdisc- 32,117Brief interpretation- looks like both SACD and Dualdisc appeal to collectors, people who are buying newer releases seem to be sticking with the CD by a vast margin.
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Those aren't sales figures.
Still, it was explained in a follow-up post; and most readers are aware of Amazon rankings.
Regards,
Geoff
DualDisc is a product aimed specifically for bricks'n mortar downtown record stores.
What is your source for this rather strange assertion?Common sense tells me that Dualdisc is a format aimed at collectors, similar to picture disks in the LP era. Collectors use the Internet for many of their transactions these days.
Oh, so do you think it strange that record companies want to bring people back to the music aisles in stores by offering added-value multimedia content that a plain CD (or SACD) cannot provide?And you have obviously overlooked the fact that the DualDisc marketing trials last year in Boston etc only included city stores, and did NOT include internet distribution channels? Hmm. Go figure.
CDs and DVDs are both sold by many Internet retailers. By combining the two, I don't understand why a specific brick and mortar product is created.Foods and other perishables are more appropriate to b and m stores than the Internet. Dualdiscs will certainly be sold on the Internet.
Anyway, it's been 5 years now and the big claims of both the SACD and DVD-A proponents have been proven false. These are both tiny niche products. Now a new niche product has been created- Dualdisc- and still people believe it will achieve mass popularity. This is highly unlikely.
If it was ever even alive in the first place. At least plain DVD-A is dead and there isn't any argument about that anymore. But you're also right on SACD; expectations for its success were way too naive. It's great for small classical labels though.
Classical music is my thing, and the small labels have in general been doing better and more interesting things than the big five (now four)for a long time. With the watered-down pop crossover stuff, the obsession with "big name" stars, the classics for dummies, it's no wonder that it's no working out for them. Meanwhile, with fine labels like BIS putting out SACDs, I'll stay interested in the format.
DVD-A is not dead. There are many ways to obtain music, including illegal downloading. Some are widely used, some are only used by a small minority. It is just like the market for cars or ice cream or most every consumer product. Different types of products and each one appeals to a market segment of varying size. A small market share does not mean dead. There are still DVD-A players and titles coming out.
NM
You're right. Keep in mind that this type of music is for high school teenegers who doesn't have a DVD-Audio or SACD players. They have Boom boxes.The Snow Patrol was released a few months ago and, as you can see, the sales index for the DualDisc is higher than the SACD. The NIN DualDisc is behind the SACD but over the CD!
What you can see here is a totally inconclusive data because the DualDisc it's still a new format. You can't have an idea if it will succeed or fail based on 3 discs.
This music is mostly boughten by the younger generation... who don't care,or have the money/never heard of SACD, to invest in a quality sound system. I think your numbers would be much different with Jazz, Classical, and older rock/pop.
no claim that this has any scientific validity, I was just curious how SACD was doing versus Dualdisc so I checked a few titles where both are available. These amazon rankings change frequently and probably don't mean a lot. But I honestly expected higher rankings for Snow Patrol and Keane since these are pretty hot bands right now.
CD was only higher on one of your examples... and not by much, when compared to huge difference in the other 2 examples.
NT
Richard
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Richard
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