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In Reply to: Re:Energy saving posted by Satyr on May 15, 2007 at 07:20:14:
I never left my system on all the time. Two of my components have no power switch, so I use a switched power bar.The thing is that despite the overwhelming evidence there are still people who deny climate change. Did anyone here read the three recent reports on ipcc.ch? What more do you need? Storm surge in your garden, drinking water at critically low levels. The cry for help and blame the neighbours?
The bad thing about climate change is that it will affect us all. The good thing about climate change is that it will affect us all.
Guys, we are all in the same boat, climate change is not an issue that's restricted to third world countries. The US alone consumes 45% of the global car fuel. Prices in Europe rise when USA is on vacation.
I used a website to calculate the yearly emission my little family is causing by using electric energy, gas, car etc., daily life stuff: it's the equivalent to a return flight Berlin-Singapore. 24 hours in a Boeing produce the same emission as a whole year's daily life.
I had changed my mind a long time ago, when I was at university. The recent ipcc reports in fact provoked a further change: instead of using the lift, I now take the stairs (working on 11th floor). Instead of using the vacuum-cleaner, I use the broom. Switch off what is not needed. The list goes on.
The ipcc reports say that we have the technology and the funds to mitigate climate change but are we willing to do that? If we don't do anything, and I'm afraid that that is what is going to happen, we will have to spend 20% of the global GDP for the effects of climate change. And when the Greenland glacier melts, a sea level increase of 7 m is not what I wish our descendents to experience.
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that ...there are still people who deny climate change.The open question is whether or not we are to blame. Who was making the SUVs when we exited the little ice age about a thousand years ago? Whan you consider the primary greenhouse gas, water vapor, then the argument "evaporates".
The US alone consumes 45% of the global car fuel.
Bogus statistic. A barrel of oil is a barrel of oil, regardless of what you do with it. The US consumes about 26%. Real data
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Oh really, so you didn't read the reports, did you?All those scientists who say that certainty that man is responsible is 90% are just dumb nuts who don't know what they are talking about?
Burning fossil fuels means releasing combustion products into the system which have been removed from the system a long time ago, hence disturbing natural equilibrated cycles. Carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere is much higher than the last 600.000 years. And it's all man made.
Nature doesn't care for one second about what we are doing. If
mankind disappears, so what? What are you telling your children when they ask about environment and cliomate change?The US is good for "only" 26% of global crude consumption, but you guys are only 4.5% of the global population!!!
In comparison, there are more people living in the European Union than in the US but they are consuming less.
Just stick your head in the sand and believe that problems will go away simply because you don't think of them. You too are sitting in the boat!
This is another dysfunctional UN group. Do you remember the Chapter 8 problem with the 1995 report? You know, the one where Benjamin Santer, the convening lead author, completely changed the conclusions and was duly blasted?We'd better take out some stuff!
When you have a political agenda, you certainly don't want these conclusions in the final draft:
- "None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed [climate] changes to the specific cause of increases in greenhouse gases."
- "No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate change observed to date] to anthropogenic [man- made] causes."
- "Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability of the climate system are reduced."
Then you have those pesky assumptions:
The US is good for "only" 26% of global crude consumption, but you guys are only 4.5% of the global population!!!
I see you have quickly retreated from your fictitious "statistics".
What I find most amusing about this entire issue is that the biggest cheerleaders were saying as recently as 1971 that we were headed for the next ice age!
that is entirely in line with the US contribution to the world GDP.
as it is just too wasteful of a limited resource. I hope that my children won't be treading water due to GW but with the head in the sand attitude of many world leaders I don't hold out much hope.
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