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...made in the Bay Area, of course.Ever hear of Meyer Sound?
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Well this is sure one of the more subjective topics here, but the Guarneri Mementos in my living room right now are incredibly musical and drop dead gorgeous.....I would rank them right up there imo.
How about them? TAS like them very much (I think).
Paul Stubblebine has some Magico prototypes in his mastering room and Michael Romanowski has X-10s next door in his mastering room. Through these connections I'm fortunate to be friends with Alon Wolf who manufactures the Magico speakers, and with Bob Hodas, who has produced a very refined in-home version of the Meyer X-10. Both the M6s and the X-10s are fabulous speakers, as are Andrew Jones' TAD R1 home speakers.The speakers are all a little different sonically, as one would expect. Yet they can all convey a startling sense of realism - with a first rate source. I'd be beside myself at the thought of having any of them parked in my living room, and calling a contractor to come shore up the floor joists...they are all massive.
We have used four Meyer HD-1s to create an echo chamber for a natural sounding reverb in the live room at Coast Recorders. They worked very well in that role, and also work very well as control room monitors.
We use a variety of their products where I work. From small, powered monitors, up to their large line arrays. They are very natural and transparent sounding loudspeakers... and very expensive. I think a big part of the reason they sound as good as they do is the fact that most (if not all) of their boxes are powered internally by amplifiers of their own design... takes a potential unknown element out of the equation. I know a couple of people who use the HD-1 monitors in their home music systems... they rave about them.
> Ever hear of Meyer Sound?
Trivia note: Rachel Archibald, daughter of my ex-partner in Stereophile, Larry Archibald, has been Meyer Sound's marketing manager since the end of the 1990s.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
I was reading the mag a couple of days ago, specifically the PSB review and enjoyed your comments. Thanks for including lower cost components in the issue and other issues.
yeap!, three times in a row and this last one regained my interest to keep buying the mag, great articles and show coverage as well.
He moved to California to be with his girlfriend. He got a job as an engineer at Meyer Sound- having worked for us his comments about the place was 'they are nice for what they do but not in the same league as the speakers we used at Atma-Sphere.'The speakers that we used at the time (and still use) are made by Classic Audio Reproductions (model T-3), although we have added others.
Don't get me wrong- if I was doing PA work I'd love to use the Meyer Sound stuff!
But since the two companies in question don't compete it's moot.
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and you whip out the torches and pitchforks. Nice.
What we're getting here is unbiased output.
"Ever heard of Meyer Sound?"Isn't he the guy who designed McCune Sound's touring speakers back in the day? And the low frequency speakers for "Apocalypse Now"? And the "System 80" speakers for the Grateful Dead's Radio City performances?
And pioneered the use of active electronics to significantly reduce distortion in speakers? And built the first low-distortion time-aligned studio monitors? And the first compact high-output high-fidelity stage monitors? And the HD-1 High Definition near-field monitor. And..., and... And now makes what are possibly the loudest, most efficient, and cleanest powered speakers available anywhere?
Nope, never heard of him. ;) See www.meyersound.com.
Actually, I was fortunate to learn from John when he was doing research in Switzerland. Taught me almost everything I know about loudspeaker design. BTW, his photo used in his advertising... he looks exactly the same as in '74!!
We've used Meyer UPA-1 systems and their associated electronics at the convention center where I am contracted. They do sound remarkably clean, clear and dynamic. They also seem to put out a LOT of sound for their size.
"David! You can KILL a man with a chopstick!" -Keith Charles, Six Feet Under
Another contender is Klein+Hummel O500C.
Klaus, know anything about the 0500D?I'm a PC audio type...using Fostex NF-1A's w/ a KRK S8 through an M-Audio Audiophile 192, and I'm thinking about my next upgrade. I've decided its time to go digital active.
Either my research is poor, or there aren't many options that are a definite upgrade.
Scratch that...I thought the C designation meant that it was analog, because on the lower models the D means digital.So the O500C's are digital...they must be simply amazing. O300D is the one thats more realistically obtainable though.
Yes, sort of, I have them in my living.The O500C use a digital controller, which provides almost infinite flexibility. The O300D don't have that controller, they only have digital input and DAC. The controller can be purchased as separate stand-alone unit. THe 300 are very fine speakers, they just don't provide the powerful and controlled bass (and max.SPL) as the 500.
Other speakers that use DSP are from Dynaudio, JBL, KSDigital, Meridian. However, none of these provides performance similar to the O500C.
Another way of having full-scale DSP is the DeQX.
They are exceptional performers. Have any of you heard them.
Still, the question remains, how do you define "best" ?
I haven't measured them, but have measured several of their home offerings. Other than perspective, there is little sonic difference between them.I defined best by how accurate, linear, transparent and true to the original event/recording they are.
The Avalons, especially when used with Accuphase amplification, achieve these goals better than any other monitor I have heard to date.
Try and listen to Klein+Hummel O500C, speaker engineering at its best. Btw, before I bought the 500 I had the E-406V (driving DIY transmissionline), which I sold without any regret.
I have probably heard the entire lineup of Klein+Hummels. I have nothing bad to say about them.What didn't you like about your 406? Have you heard the P-300/400/650? These are the monitoring amp's used in many studio's.
Nothing in particular I did not like about the 406, but IMO the active speaker approach is inherently superior to the passive speaker/generic power amp approach. The O500C have simply that much power and control (the tweeter amps alone have more power than the 406), not to forget the DSP, that one would have a hard time to find a speaker/amp combo that is comparable.Anyway, high-end for me is a chapter that I've closed 5 years ago.
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What's that got to do with state of the art sound, as in taking the listener into a recorded acoustic space?
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Ever heard or heard of the recording Dafos? Meyers (unknown model) was used extensively in that recording for adding live ambience to the recording venue.This recording is probably one of the best examples of not only analog done right (Keith Johnson engineered it), but very REAL sounding drums in an acoustic space...
Check it out- there are Meyers in state of the art audio...
"David! You can KILL a man with a chopstick!" -Keith Charles, Six Feet Under
Then the speaker company with the highest standards for values must be Bo.... E-r-r-r-r..... Whatever.....Too often, whenever I experience something touted as "best", I can often cite something I personally like better.... I'll otherwise reserve comment because I've never listened to the speaker line.
...and while I have heard worse, I have heard better. I suppose once you have heard unamplified jazz, it is hard to go back. What drives me most crazy is amplified piano, which almost always sounds hideous live, sometimes to the point of sounding honky tonk.I have good tickets for Norah Jones in Berkeley, so I guess I will be hearing the speakers in a larger venue (since she apparently uses them). I will have to keep that in mind when I go, and I hope the piano sounds okay...
Wifey and I saw His Holiness the Dalai Lama Friday and Saturday at the Bill Graham Civic Center and the sound was very good.The HP Pavilion in San Jose could learn a lot from the BG Civic Center.
pro audio ...touring concerts, house sound for various arenas and concert halls, etc.
No doubt we have all been exposed to their products at one time or another without being aware of it - can think of several venues that sounded very dynamic.
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