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Here's some pics for the Blue Circle fans:
Ok guys, that's it for Day 1 pics, Day 2&3 to follow ...
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There was a lot of potential here. However, Gilbert admitted that the Ascent's still needed a lot of burn-in...they sounded a little too tight and flat...very few hour yet on the panels.
Regards, Jerry O.
Yaeh, sure, "they don't sound rihgt 'cause they ain't quite cooked yet". Give me a break. And you believe that?
I can't figure out how to copy a photo here, so go to: http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue10/system.htm, scroll down to the image of the Blue Circle CS integrated amp, and tell me you think it's ugly. I had that particular piece here and thought it was truly lovely. Call me a BC lover/dealer, but it really was. Clearly it has something to do with the wood/stainless contrast working or not working for you aesthetically, but as I say, for me, it's clearly working. And as Big Eyes Beans says, Gilbert will sell you stainless if you insist.
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In the first pic was that the BC28 beside the BC26 between the speakers?Was Gilbert switching back and forth between the BC26 and BC28?
That would be very interesting to hear the differences in the 2 amps..
Dunno, wasn't there, but that appears to be the case. That would be an interesting comparison. No sign of a front end or preamp in the photo....?
I've actually done quite a bit of comparisons between the BC26mkII and BC28 (using both a BC3mkII Galatea and a BC103 preamp). The best thing about Blue Circle gear is that relative to other products in the product line, they behave pretty much as you'd expect...the BC26mkII is a much faster and muscular amp, and the BC28 presents much richer harmonics. The only thing I didn't expect was the performance of the BC28 with the BC3mkII Galatea...prior to trying it, I thought it would be too lush and warm, but it is surprisingly my personal favorite combination between all of these products. The BC103/BC28 and Galatea/BC26 combos are also excellent, while the BC103/BC26 combo is a bit muscular for my tastes...
Yup... we were running the BC26mk2 on the first 2 days, then switched to the BC28 for the rest of the show.
Source was a Wadia 861, and the pre-amp was the BC3000mk2.
am i the only one who thinks BC's preamps, with those wooden knobs, look embarassingly bad?at these prices, you think they could afford plastic!
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I think that wood, in this context, makes for a mixed design metaphor.
"a mixed design metaphor"! I like that! I was trying to say something to the effect the use of these knobs creates a contrast between hard/cold metal and soft/warm wood, but your words are way better. I think an awful lot of audio these days is pure hype. Unaided by visual cues, most people could not tell the difference between properly functioning objectively comparable models of electronic devices (let’s leave speakers out of this), so what manufacturers are left with is advertising and designing a box that inspires. Now how Edge could make such ugly components is beyond me. Ditto for Legacy speakers. Ditto for the geek with the photogenic female speakers. My conclusion: different is not necessarily good, but sex surely sells.
but I think the wood looks great, especially juxtaposed with the metal. I think its a neat design feature that is both attractive and sets the equipment apart from its competitors. From a tactile perspective, it must be a lot more pleasant to turn one of those than a plastic knob. When I first read your post, I was actually wondering whether it was tongue in cheek: "you think they could afford plastic!" My guess is that those wood knobs cost a helluva lot more than their plastic counterparts would. Given a choice between plastic and wood, I'd take the wood every time. Don't we have to deal with enough plastic out there in our daily lives?I am not a Blue Circle owner, by the way. I currently have plastic, but it's pretty uninteresting.
I am always amazed at how a lot of high-enders firmly believe that every little upgrade to a component or part of a unit has to cost "a helluva lot more". This I firmly believe is a fallacy, the cost of any such "upgrade" is merely used to jack up the price of the unit by factors of ten or more. It is quite simply ludicrous. BTW The wood knobs look nice but a bit odd. To each is own.
I thought that my helluva lot more comment might be misinterpreted and I think you have. In relative terms, the wood knobs might cost perhaps a few dollars by the time they are machined, stained etc. Contrast that against maybe 50 or 60 cents for an outsourced plastic knob and that is a helluva lot more. That is all I was trying to say.As to whether there are sonic virtues, I have no idea. I personally have no aspirations to high end simply for the sake of being high end. My system is full of budget crap that just sounds pretty good to me. I'm into maximum performance for minimum $$ spent.
wooden cabinet's which alter the sound compared to their other offerings. Joule Electra uses certain type(s) of wood for thier top amps also.
I personally like the wooden knobs, as do a number of my customers! And Blue Circle does offer a variety of woods to choose from (golden oak, black oak, red cherry, etc.).But for those who prefer their high-end audio components to look more "generic", Blue Circle does offer the option of stainless steel knobs...
That was my first impression as the picture loaded. Even if wood knobs do have some sonic benifits, do they have to look like THAT to "sound good".
honestly, the system sounded pretty good !dissapointing they are still doing dual pots thing.. that I can't deal with more so than those ugly wooden knobs.
I love wood. It is a beautiful organic material. I enjoy building things with it and the way it feels and looks. I love my wooden tripods. I wouldn't have anything but wooden gunnels on my canoes, but you are right. Sometimes for some reason things don't work aesthetically, and this is a good case. On the other hand, if it sounds really good, I could forgive it and maybe learn to like it. Some small companies can't afford a designer. Haven't you seen a house built by a really good builder who used his wife to do the color and wallpaper. These things happen. Just close your eyes. It sounds better that way.
Well, if you believe this: http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RAM&Category_Code=VOLUME (and I do), then one can surmise why they use wooden nobs instead of plastic.
hehehaha
Did you see the post/link here for the (if I remember right) $500 wooden replacement knob for some piece of high end equipment? It was supposed to make the piece sound better..... hmmm
Of course it sounds better... if I were the seller the "Ch-Ching!" sound would be music to my ears!Heh.
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