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Ok, flame suit is ON.....A lot of you folks seem to get off big-time on frothing at the mouth over Bill Roberts' (RBP) history and stories about same...lots of skepticism over whether this guy knows the working end of a pan pot,etc etc. Yet he has repeatedly offered to share samples of his work, which ought, to my way of thinking, to go a long way toward put-up-or-shut-up. I could not give a rip, frankly, about the stories if the music tells its own tale.
Curious myself, I took him up on the offer last week and he's been feeding me little snippets of stuff to play with. Suffice to say it's the real deal...I have a fair system set up at home, and I will state outright that I've heard more lifelike music in these MP3 samples than on most if not all of the recordings I've collected in the last several decades. I've got a sample of a live orchestral recording Bill sent me the other night that is lively, accurate, and dynamic enough that you BETTER have some headroom in your system! Wide, deep soundstage, instruments that sound like real instruments with people behind them, the sense of being in a real concert hall. What more could you ask for?
I invite some of you other brave souls out there to take the guy up on his offer(s), evaluate the recordings on their own merit, then post your observations here. I don't know the guy, have nothing to gain from all of this other than hearing some good sounds, could care less about his past except that he seems to have learned something pretty substantial about making good recordings. And I say that from my own DIRECT EXPERIENCE, not from somebody else's sayso...
Or is the soap opera insult game just more fun? What's it supposed to be about? the music, somebody said?
Follow Ups:
This is hilarious, about what I expected...Of all the posts so far ONLY ONE GUY (Good for you Big B!!) has indicated an interest in listening to the samples.
Hightly entertaining indeed....
I'm not sure if I can play them back!!! We're talking MP3's here and I don't have an MP3 player of any kind (no computer at home). If RBP wanted to make me a CD of MP3's that were burned as regular audio tracks.... then I would certainly be interested. FWIW, RBP and I have had a few friendly exchanges here. While some may challenge his credentials (I don't care to check into it myself), nobody seems to challenge the technical stuff he talks about, as if acknowleding that he does know what he is talking about in those regards.Gosh darnit, I'll ask for a CD. Email to RBP on the way.
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
"While some may challenge his credentials (I don't care to check into it myself), nobody seems to challenge the technical stuff he talks about, as if acknowleding that he does know what he is talking about in those regards."You really should have "checked into it" before stating the above. There are numerous threads here that show RBP hasn't a clue when he does his technical babble. Always, when he's challenged he either fails to respond, threatens lawsuits, or goes off the deep end such as he did here .
Good luck with your CD, and even more luck if you ever take any of his audio advice seriously.
It's his credentials I don't care to check on. By technical stuff, let me clarify that that meant stuff about recording/mastering. Hey, maybe I missed something - I don't follow all of his posts (never knew posted on vinyl either) and I myself don't know anything about the recording side of the music industry to know any better. Regarding advice, it's all taken with a grain of salt, regardless of where/who it comes from.Bill and I have had a few pleasent exchanges about my speakers, gave me some helpful info on some others, and Louisiana food - he having lived here. What can I say, we get along ok.
That said, I'm not here to defend him. It's in the interest of good sound and for learning experience's sake that I want to hear the CD. It will be what it is and I'll try to report on it as best I can. Should be here in about a week. Now, I'm not sure what this will tell me, assuming it sounds great. Exceptional mastering? That MP3 can be good if done a certain way, or who knows what. We'll see....
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
All this shows is how much of a Rochester horses ass Felix Faerman can be....you know who. I was combatting a drunkard that could not type in the chat and was banned from the chat. Opened his own site, and I love the emails I get daily about them. All documented.He opened his own site, audio anus, and the rest is history. Do you guys really realise how stupid you appear to others by being little bullyies and pupsiks?
Don't bother Marc, I will call you, just email your number and I can tell you what the deal is...but thats right! you already know, so does thousands of others...I like to keep them guessing, since this is all they seem to do.
You know what, they come over here ONLY when I post, and then they have this little "thug gang" that wants to slander. Sound like adults?
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All this shows is how much of a Rochester horses ass Felix Faerman can be....you know who. I was combatting a drunkard that could not type in the chat and was banned from the chat. Opened his own site, and I love the emails I get daily about them. All documented.WTF is this, Booby, and exactly what is documented? Why are you making-up pure falsehoods and why are you dragging me into this? If someone hadn't dropped me a quick note about this thread, I wouldn't have even known of its existence. As other posts in this thread blatantly illustrate, you're a man who's saddled with multiple issues and I truly wish you'd leave me out of your demented world.
> > If someone hadn't dropped me a quick note about this thread, I wouldn't have even known of its existence.Nice to see you Felix. It's strange though, the Asylum must be popular with folks using Electric Lightwave, someone logged 107 hits from there yesterday. Surely, it must just be a coincidence, along with the 70 hits the day before and the 1,391 from last month. Oh well, that person posts as Jasmine or Your friendly dominatrix, so it couldn't be you, you wouldn't sockpuppet like that.
"All this shows is how much of a Rochester horses ass Felix Faerman can be"Instead of commenting on the example of your bad audio advice I provided Marc, you chose to sidestep it by throwing your typical RBP Tantrum (patent pending) over somebody not even involved in this thread. Why am I not surprised?
So, whaddaya say, Mr. Wizard. Care to further explain why you recommend pairing a low gain phonostage with a low output cartridge? I'm extremely interested to hear just what it is you know, that everybody else familiar with phono playback doesn't.
If this topic isn't to your liking, just say so and I'll link dozens of other examples of your vast audio knowledge and advice that was shown to be wrong.
And you review audio equipment? Lord have mercy on us all.
eott
No, because you did not ask me privatly, and second, your agenda stinks to the rotten sewers of Amsterdam, third, you are beligerant, unkind, and non becoming of a person that wants to interact peacefully (stop sending viagra ads to my mail box that gets auto delete, and ask me strait up for a music sample for you to decide)
You do not know me, have not spent 1 min on the phone, have no clue of me, and that my lost little child, will get you nowhere with me.Start acting like an adult, and maybe, perhaps, you may can stop spending waistful hours in your quest, and get to know me, and the truth.
My little friend, you lost your oppertunity to coesist with someone that could interact peacefully and have great conversation with what I do, and I could learn what you do..and we both could have ended up more enlightened.I find your responses an annoyance and like house flys, I simply would rather eleminate them than to be bothered. This is all you get from me, I grow tired of your juvenile foolishness. You blew it. I would have been happy to have a phone conversations, as I am doing now with another inmate here...and with hundreds of others over the last 4 years.
You Sir, are done.
Consider yourself a dead issue as it goes, and consider anymore time wasited pursuing me, your true undoing...as it is your time, not mine. If you want to spend the time doing that, you truely have no life, goals or ambition. I give you one idea of faith. Take up a hobby that is precious to you personally. You will not be here in 50 years, I recommend you take advantage of your time and not waste it playing childish games.
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"(stop sending viagra ads to my mail box that gets auto delete, and ask me strait up for a music sample for you to decide)"I believe it was about three years ago that you accused somebody else on this forum of sending you threatening e-mails. I also believe you ended up looking like the fool you are, when you were forced to admit that you fabricated the whole thing. Of course, that was after you posted his phone number and urged the inmates to call and harass him.
From what you just wrote, it appears that you're going to try pulling that same stunt with me. You just never learn. Do you?
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."you are beligerant, unkind, and non becoming of a person that wants to interact peacefully"
"You blew it. I would have been happy to have a phone conversations, as I am doing now with another inmate here"
"My little friend, you lost your oppertunity to coesist with someone that could interact peacefully and have great conversation with what I do, and I could learn what you do..and we both could have ended up more enlightened."
That's a shame, because there's nothing I would have enjoyed more then to "interact peacefully" and have "great conversations" with the clown who just told Marty to "wake up and fuck yourself if you dont like it."
You're the cause of much laughter, RBP. You're just too damn dumb to know it.
eott
Of the trombonists I listed below in my prior post, tell me which one was your stage name. Also, please provide me with the years that you played for M. Ferguson.
Marty, In private email...but you would report back to audio anus anyway, you have no need to know.I give you the years..
1977-1978
College clinics, Eastern seaboard.
Maynard came to PJC where I was studying, was told I was badd ass, picked me up for 13 clinics. We kicked ass.
13 performances doing MFHORNII material. Country road, give it one, the way we were,(I soloed it) chamelion, the horse (not on album), gospel john....later, the hollywood album had over 100 players, I played on it as well.Don't be silly, Maynard has all kinds of folks playing...but my name is my privacy in this....just because, I do not care to release it now, or any other time. Reggie Dewight (Sharon) uses Elton as well. What was dean Martin or Tony Curtis' real name Huh?
I am old school, wake up and fuck yourself if you dont like it./
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Why would I need to report back to the Annex? They can read what is written here by you. Why re-post or report on anything when your comments made here are for all the world to see.No, you were not with Maynard Ferguson. I gave a list of the trombone players with the band over an extended period of time. There were many. However, during the period you say you were with the band, Nick Lane and Phil Grey were the trombonists with Maynard Ferguson - not you! Unless, that is, your stage name was either Nick Lane or Phil Grey....which it wasn't (see below). BTW, I looked for crossover trombonists between Kenton, Rich and Ferguson - you weren't there either. There should have been one name in common with all three bands sometime from 1977 - 1981 (the year you said you quit in your bio). There were none that could not be accounted for - meaning, no one playing under an assumed name. Or, did you take on a new stage name with each new band? You are trapped.
13 performances with Maynard Ferguson takes less than two weeks as he plays almost every night, sometimes twice a day - haven't really spent any time with a traveling band have you? But it took two years with you. Nor have you ever recorded with him. For he lists his band members on every recording - everyone. Of course, you can't name someone listed on the album credits because they might still be alive and be really mad at you for stealing their identity....then you'd be in even more trouble.
Dean Martin and Tony Curtis had their names legally changed, did you? They also did not use an assumed name to escape federal income tax liability, or paternity. I don't think there is a statute of limitations on the type of tax fraud you've admitted to. And you are implicating Maynard Ferguson in your tax avoidance scheme as I'm sure he knew your real name (then again, he never really knew you did he). Still, I think he should know what you are saying about him and his band though.
Aren't you supposed to be in the Ukraine now, then to Japan? And I hear Brazil is scheduled for December. I'm sure I'll be seeing you at CES in January, or is it Boora-Boora that month?
Marty
PS. I found out what your stage name was.....Commander McBragg!!!
What does:Scuba-diving
Ballooning
Playing Tennis
Driving along the Coast
Doing charity work
Modding a car
Walking on The Beach
Salsa Dancing
Playing Golfhave to do with anything? I am wondering why we have to be subjected to your little version of the "Live Life to its Fullest" speach? I am sure many AA'ers live full lives as well, and have pursued endeavors equal to yours! This has got to be the most self-serving post I have ever read on AA - with the possible exception of those by Dr. Draz!
Dave
(who owns/flies a Skylane and would never fly "side seat")
It is just answers to slander posts on another forum. If you saw it, you would understand!keep the wheels up! Clear prop!
It is defensive in nature. Just some folks don't "get it" (not you). They take snmippets of your interaction with others and turn it into a ficton novel and act like little brats.
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We're always looking for good demo material for our CES booth.Whatcha got?
Big B, I will be happy to mail you a CD, catch me in email on this post. I remastered some of Rays material...but keen to see what he is going to do about the "180hz" situation with the experiment.
All in all, let me get you a good CD.
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Adam, thanks for pointing out the sound! They do sound breath thaking and of course, it is the musicians we have to thank. From the large Yacht that I was a business partner with 3 other guys, to getting a test ride in an F-15 Egale (after weeks of training) to calling Ortophon when I was 15 about the bottom of their cartridge dragging on certain tonearms and the fix for it, mailing them a design schetch (which landed me an honorarium of a new MC10 and MC preamp) to working with Nadam which sold hundreds of millions of dollars of consumer gear to large companies like Sears, Penneys, REX TV, Dixie Hifi (now Circuit city) and others to outlandish storys of my work with DOD, being a professional trombonest with Kenton, Rich, Furguson, and the James last Orchestra...and many studio gigs, to a host of other things such as mass producing speaker systems for sale in Mom and Pop shops as alternatives, to the days with Speakerlab, Paul Klipsch, Jeff Nelson and other quality speaker companies...I do what I can to make each day fulfilling. Tomorrow I will be scuba diving off the coast, Thursday, setting up for a live Opera recording, Saturday, skydiving 700 miles away from here. I play Tennis each Monday afternoon. I take time out to care for my Little Doggie. I have an RB26DETT engine I am finishing mods on for the car. I do as much for the precious little time on this earth as I have. At my age, I am at 65% of my natural life if I don't have another heart attack.Some people cannot fathom a life of activity..and remain couch and keyboard potatos. Some people get their "rocks off" seeing if they can hurt other people. Some people enjoy slandering folks...until the king cobra bites their head off and some folks just were bullys in Middle School..and grow to be bigger bullys as they grow old and tired. I really wish I could take all the Man-hours waisted slandering me for my own, I could do much more than I do and have done.
If it is something I want to do, I do it. I see no reason not to. I decided in 1978 that the weakest link in audio were the recordings themselves, I set-out to do something about that. Loudspeakers are another serious weak link. Room acoustics, competes with the other two constantly. Since CD is a weak link and it used to take a 25K Drive and conv. to make a CD sound "decent", I thought I would see how a data stream can outperform ALL media if given the chance. I enjoy fine music and recording. I enjoy Precision mastering. I like to drive on a track, go up in Balloons, fly side seat in a buddys plane, scuba dive, walk on the beach in the moonlight and dance to carribean salsa. I have a buddy that has flow down in a vocano in a helo, wrestled live sharks in Austrialia, discovered the artist formally know as "Prince", has a charity to find downed pilots from WWII, get info to return to what is left for their family, and hung out with real head hunters in N.G. amongst other things.
I do charity work for the heart and soul foundation and a few others...to better someones life and give oppurtunity to those not in a position to receive it in daily life. I have seen some real winners come out of the 20+ yers of charity work I have done. Very important to everything I do...is to lend a hand to others.
ll this I this and I that, and I whatelse, I have earned it because I balance giving with receiving. Give a little, receive alot, give a lot, receive it all!
I painfully wish that I did not share some of my knowledge with "haters, bullies", and people that can't get off their hounches and discover life.
Life is what you make it, you can be your best, or you can scream at those who are best and never learn. I know some of my achievements sound totally unrealistic...but live a day in the life of me, it is all there.
I enjoy my gifts which God has given me and I thank him every day for them. He also guides me in ways of improvement that I cannot simply put into words. I have many things I want to accomplish and do them well...so far, music, for musics sakes is where I put most of my energy. I listen at least 25 hours a week in the studio. I have learned to do quite well with less than 4 hours sleep each night..and still have ample energy. It is just focusing your energy to what you want to accomplish and doing it, over and over and over again...until you are satisfyed. I also shoot a 12 handicap on the courses. I use as much time as it takes..but focus is the key and a connection with your creator.
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you say you used stage names on albums for "tax purposes". Are you saying you were paid under a false name to avoid taxes? Are you aware that this is a federal crime?Is is due to potential criminal liability that you refuse to reveal your "stage names"?
Or is there some other reason I am missing? Is any of this true?
And are we also supposed to believe that you have a team of lawyers poised to look up IP addresses and file lawsuits against people who say things you don't like on the Internet? This is supposed to be a joke, I hope. Nobody, not a single person, could take this seriously.
" to getting a test ride in an F-15 Egale (after weeks of training)"Test ride? C'mon, RBP, you're being much too modest. Don't you remember posting that you actually flew that F-15 Eagle ?
"I flew tomahawks, Warriors, then went to Bonanzas', twin, then got a Rutan , long easy, put 1000 hrs. on her, got to go up in an F15 Eagle, got to stick it, for 45 mins., now I am totally spoiled."
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"calling Ortophon when I was 15 about the bottom of their cartridge dragging on certain tonearms and the fix for it, mailing them a design schetch (which landed me an honorarium of a new MC10 and MC preamp)Geez, RBP. I seem to remember you saying you co designed many cartridges with Ortofon . That's a little different then "calling" them on the phone. Isn't it?
"Case dismissed. (BTW...I actually co designed many phono cartridges with Ortofon in the late 70's, and have been a manufactures consultant Professional.."meaning I get paid" for over 26 years.)"
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"From the large Yacht that I was a business partner with 3 other guys"Wasn't that about the same time you bought a Phantom F-4 jet?
"Some good deals.....
127' motor yacht...(seen on Miami Vice) Name...Top Secret.1964 hull Twin Cats 535's....fully laid out ready to go. Twin 24'Boston Whaler dingies...Helo pad 600,000.00.....
Phantom F4 Needs one engine.... 35,000 (resold after rebuild) 0.9K ! (Spare engine GE 101 was only 90G's)
Yamaha NS1000M's 500.00
These were great investments!"
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"being a professional trombonest with Kenton, Rich, Furguson, and the James last Orchestra"Try as I might, I can't seem to locate one musician's credit with your name on it from any of those bands. Would you please point me to them?
I realize you're a very busy guy, what with mastering those Madonna recordings, but perhaps you could spare a moment {less time then it took you to post your accomplishments) to explain the above inconsistencies.
What a cheese you are, I bought the engine, not the plane, it was used for a Exibition.Get a life
As far as credits go, I use a STAGE name as many do. Read the thread and see some credits.Thank you for another IP for my lawyers.
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Magnetar
,,As far as credits go, I use a STAGE name as many do.''That is total BS! As a writer/reporter for a daily newspaper and a variety of music magazines I have interviewed or spoken with quite a few engineers and producers over the years, and visited many studios in Europe and the US.
All engineers and produces INSIST on having their REAL name listed on the album. You know why? If the record does well and gets good reviews, this will get them their next recording job.
I am still amazed that you manage to get away with all your wild claims, without delivering ANY substantial proof of anything.Best,
Robert (not a stage name)
p.s. in case you feel like questioning my credibility. I AM a journalist. And I am more than happy to privide a link to an article I wrote while in NY, two weeks ago. It's in Dutch, but since your speak that language, I sure you'll be more than happy to provide a translation....
"I bought the engine, not the plane, it was used for a Exibition.""Phantom F4 Needs one engine.... 35,000 (resold after rebuild) 0.9K ! (Spare engine GE 101 was only 90G's)"
Those are your words, aren't they? Now you're saying you only bought the engine ? And you bought it for an "exhibit"? Did the "exhibit" have anything to do with the work you did for the military trying to eliminate the vapor trails of the B-2 bomber ? It's good to see you're using the doctorate in acoustic engineering you say you have, in such a patriotic way. Your parents must be so proud of you.
"As far as credits go, I use a STAGE name as many do. Read the thread and see some credits."How could I possibly see your credits if you use a "stage name?"
"Thank you for another IP for my lawyers."Damn! Does that mean we can't be buddies?
Okay, now that we've finished discussing your phantom Phantom, how about you addressing the other inconsistencies I pointed out in my previous post.
I did an extensive search re: trombone players with Maynard Ferguson. I checked his record credits for trombone players, and personnel lists for the band from 1975 through 1990, and did not find your name. I did find these names on trombone: Nick Lane, Phil Gray, Milt Bernhart, Steve Weist, Lanny Morgan, Willie Maiden, Don Menza, Frank Hettner, Garfield Fobbs, Dante Luciani, Bob Fitzpatrick, Bob Burger, Rob McConnell, Kenny Rupp, Chris Brayman, Charlie Loper,Lew McCreary, Bill Reichenbach and Alex Iles. But no Bill Roberts. Same for the Buddy Rich band.Google reveals nothing about you nor does RIAA membership information. You have posted about working for certain musicians, on certain albums - Alan Parsons come to mind. Yet, you don't seem to be credited by him for any work. Can you point me in the direction of any legitimate accreditation? I will look it up.
I acknowledge that I may have missed something in my search regarding your past. If so, please provide me with specific independently documented proof of your participation with the above said bands and musicians.
In college clinics and in studio performaces, we were advise to use stage names, also, we were trying to keep the girls at bay. You found me, but that is how this biz is.
Yes, I am there.Also, my acredited names on albums are NOT Bill Roberts. Again, we use stage names. Tax purposes.
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> > we were trying to keep the girls at bay < <Your such an inspriration to all mortal men ... you must have helped create viagra too.
geez, but i have a nagggggging feeling that YOU - of all people - did not really need to resort to lying about your identity in order to keep those girls at bay (did you mean hudsons bay, or is that not even far enough for them to escape you bullshit?).
Its funny ... but for the first time i realized why (the F4) it was called a 'phantom' jet ... after you claimed to have purchased one ... it all made perfect sense.
Those were 'phantom' girls too ... right?
Was your stage name "Lyle I.R. Pantzonfeier," by any chance?
Just a wild guess, I admit, but somehow, it seems appropriate....
After visiting the Audio Annex website, it is clear who
is really telling the truth here. RBP sent me several
samples and they are the best I have heard. All the
slanderous remarks made by the ones who are slandering
him now are in the wrong. I hope he sues every one of
you! I think I may help him fund it. Even if he is
stretching the truth, that gives you no right to slander
and deflame.You people should be ashamed of yourselves. What
you are doing is unethecal, unlawful and shameful.
If I were you, I would count your blessings and take
all that garbage down and make amends or just leave
him alone. You should at least, take the slander
down. It really paints a clear picture who you people
pretend to be. Certainly, others see it as well. Playing
with peoples lives can be a very dangerous game.
Hi "The truth seems clear." Interesting moniker. Is this another of RBP's stage names? Are you a figment of your own imagination?After visiting the Audio Annex website, it is clear who
is really telling the truth here. RBP sent me several
samples and they are the best I have heard. All the
slanderous remarks made by the ones who are slandering
him now are in the wrong.Guess what. I don't believe you. And even if you're not RBP (which you are), and RBP really did send you samples that are the best you have heard (which he didn't because you and he are the same person), so what? As far as I know, no one here or at the Annex has ever claimed that you can't create good mastering samples. (OTOH, no one credible has come forward to say that you can, either... present company included.)
I hope he sues every one of
you! I think I may help him fund it. Even if he is
stretching the truth, that gives you no right to slander
and deflame.Hilarious, Bill. Your habit of "stretching the truth" often and severely is the raison d'ętre of the Audio Annex thread to which you object. If you hadn't posted such an incredible quantity of outrageous bullshit in the first place, that thread would never have been created. And once you saw that there are people who see through your BS claims, you could have simply scaled back on the BS, and that thread would've died due to lack of activity. However, lately, you seem to have dramatically stepped up your BS output, to the great amusement of everyone at the Annex (and several others here at AA, from the look of it).
You people should be ashamed of yourselves. What
you are doing is unethecal, unlawful and shameful.
If I were you, I would count your blessings and take
all that garbage down and make amends or just leave
him alone.As I said before, you would be left alone if you simply quit piling on the BS so high. It's really up to you.
You should at least, take the slander
down.You should at least ask your legal team to explain to you what slander is. Libel, too, while you're at it.
It really paints a clear picture who you people
pretend to be. Certainly, others see it as well.Huh? Who's pretending to be anything (present company excepted, of course)?
Playing with peoples lives can be a very dangerous game.
I'll keep that in mind in case I ever decide to play with people's lives.
From reading what you wrote in one of your posts in this thread, I had thought that Thursday (today) was your day to set up for a live Opera recording. I would think that rather then risk disappointing all of those hard working opera artists by not being properly prepared, you would forego the sockpuppeting and get over there to take care of business.I would like to comment on some of what you wrote, though ....
"What you are doing is unethecal, unlawful and shameful."
Would you kindly explain how an audio site that exposes you for what you are, is any less ethical then you, with no more then a beginners knowledge in this hobby, posing as an audio reviewer (along with numerous other things you pretend to be or have done) and passing out "advice" that at best, is usually wrong?
"I hope he sues every one of you! I think I may help him fund it."Why would you need help funding your lawsuit? Wasn't it you who made $900,000.00 selling a Phantom jet, owns a 127 foot yacht, has a beach house, drove a Lamborghini and Mercedes S Class, and stated that you could "buy the Asylum" if you felt like it? And wasn't it you who listed in your Inmate profile that you have a "team of lawyers" ready to spend months in court suing that audio site? I can't believe that with all your money, you would even think about mentioning getting help to pay for your lawyers.
"Playing with peoples lives can be a very dangerous game.That might be true if the life you're playing with is real - in this case, it's not. Notice that no one has ever really questioned his claim to being a mastering engineer. By the time you get thru all the other tales, the real RBP is moot - he's been lost in all the BS. Whatever he is for real has been rendered pointless.
"Even if he is stretching the truth, that gives you no right to slander and deflame."
In order to stretch the truth, you need to have some truth to stretch. You would be more accurate and alot more honest if you said, "Even if he is stretching a lie..."
Of the names I mentioned in my prior post, which one was your stage name? BTW, what years did you play with Ferguson?
This is something
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Er, Bill, anyone can get credits posted on All music guide ( see here ). Let's see something that is a little more authoriutative like your Union card number (you do have one, don't you?).BTW, you once claimed to have been involved in the re-mastering of Roxy Music's Avalon which was actually carried out by Bob Ludwig ( see here ). It's well known that if it says Bob Ludwig on the cover then it was mastered at his facility by either himself or one of hs staff and never farmed out to any third party, or would you claim otherwise?
Cheers,
Here's a nice article with Bob Ludwig's own description of what went into the 1999 HDCD remastering of Roxy Music's Avalon, that Bill claims to have been involved in:Amazingly enough, there is no mention of having the work farmed out to other mastering facilities and no mention of Bill or Bandstand Productions whatsoever. So, the only possible conclusion here is that one of these people is a bald-faced liar. I have to wonder what Mr. Ludwig would make of Bill's claims?
-Joe.
Original mixing, I was there. 80's dude. I did not participate in the remaster, or neither was it ever said by me on roxy music, I touched a single knob. I was there and saw.
Re read my old posty, and see the silliness of your misguided followup.
Doing some work...was that I was present, amking recommendations. I was not engineering the album...although I have a safety master dat. I have reworked it for me, but I NEVER said I reworked it, rather, I was doing some work..I was present. You guys have a conjecture that simply sucks ass...putting words and phrases together wrong..and making up wild tales.Children I say....where is your tire swing and tree house now?
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> > Original mixing, I was there. 80's dude.How silly of me, and I thought the original post ( here ) was referring to the 1999 re-issue. It's now blindingly obvious that what you meant by:
> > I did some work on that album, but their could have been many different "houses" working on it. < <
was that you were sitting in the mixing booth with Brian and the lads, enjoying a smoke and mixing down one of the more legendary production and mastering jobs in history. Words can't explain how humble you must be to not want to claim any public credit for that work by steadfastly refusing to have your name appear anywhere in the credits.
> > Doing some work...was that I was present, amking recommendations. I was not engineering the album...although I have a safety master dat < <
Of course you were, Bill. I can see it all now: Bill Roberts, sitting in the Studio behind Brian Ferry, Bob Clearmountain and Rhett Davis, offering gentle words of encouragement and politely, but firmly correcting any slight mistakes.
However, Bill, you are being far too modest, for when you stated "I had a safety master DAT" , you neglected to mention that you also have posession of a Time Machine, as DAT did not exist in 1982 when Avalon was recorded and mixed. Now come on, Bill, I know you're as modest as they come, but won't you tell us a little about how you managed to spirit a DAT machine back in time from 1984 to 1982 (the first prototype wasn't available until 1983 and samples were not made available to anyone outside Sony before 1984))?
I just have one final question for the great Mastering Engineer amongst us:
Who, exactly, do you think you are fooling?
-Joe.
"Original mixing, I was there. 80's dude."Original mixing? Since Avalon was released in May, 1982, and in your Bio at ETM you wrote, " In 1981 it was time to get a real job. I worked as manager trainee at Radio Shack, and went on to manage a store in Florida. " I'm left curious as to how you were able to go from being a trainee at Radio Shack and managing a store in Florida, all the way to "touching a knob, making recommendations, and being there and saw" at the Avalon mastering sessions. Pretty damn impressive for a Radio Shack trainee to be called upon to help master Avalon.
eott
First RBP posted this in a thread about the remastered Avalon ..."I did some work on that album, but their could have been many different "houses" working on it."
Now, RBP says ...
"I did not participate in the remaster, or neither was it ever said by me on roxy music,"
Funny, after reading your post saying "I did some work on that album," it's quite evident that you most certainly did say you participated in it's remastering. Why don't you clear up the confusion by telling us which of those two statements are a lie.
"I touched a single knob. I was there and saw."
And I'm sure I know just what knob you were touching.
"You guys have a conjecture that simply sucks ass...putting words and phrases together wrong..and making up wild tales."Hardly, RBP. Why in the world would anybody feel the need to make up "wild tales," when you do it so well yourself?
Oh what a tangled web we weave ......
eott
Some folks can read credits, their heads are in their ass
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Nice post,to bad some people don't get how simple life really should be,Bob
when one clicks on the A after your name and you registered back in April 2000 and have apparently never posted before. Something seems slightly askew here.
HowdyDo a search for his IP 208.8.173.1 and you'll find 10 posts from 'Adam Reed' across the fora and a search for 208.8.173 gives 142 posts. A search for author 'Adam Reed' gives 146 posts. He just doesn't bother to use a password when he posts.
Thanks Ted. I can't imagine I've posted here 142 times but I do spend most lunch hours cruising the asylum and have for the past few uears....no agenda to the post, just wanted to loosen up a few ears (maybe attitudes????)
NT
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