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RE: Marten Speakers

Posted by jasonpatrickbrowne on January 19, 2017 at 07:49:37:

this is absolutely OT, id like to have the measurements of your AN E stuffed into the corner. no acoustician in the world would be crazy enough to recommend putting a speaker in the corner. SBIR and room modes and comb filtering are at their worst in the corners. if you want a flat accurate sounding speaker, better measure your room. since you believe in the advantage of corner room gain, please show a measurements at the listening position that support this.so put your mouth where your words is, show us your AN E in the corner: measurements at the listening position.

my point remains, when comparing two different very good dynamic speakers, I need more then a audition to determine which speaker I prefer. more power to you if you think you can know a speaker within a few hours in a unknow environment. no need for ad hominem attacks.

any room will have terrible room modes. bad bass in room is caused when you place your speaker and listening position in a room modes not, as you say, due to how solid the walls are (even though that can help). no matter how solid the walls are, one still absolutely needs to understand how bad room coloration are and treat, and place speaker accordingly. often, the same good measuring speaker placement for one speaker will be the same for another.

so yes, placing all the speakers at the same spot before making comparison is obviously the only way to compare two speakers. but you dont seem to understand room coloration. Harman does and why they desing there room test accordingly
https://www.google.ca/search?q=harman+room+test&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigif7Wzc7RAhVMzIMKHcU7DGgQ_AUICSgC&biw=1093&bih=510#imgrc=ElI1uNv9eXGEZM%3A
http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/12/05/harman-kardon-factory-tour-pure-art-sound/

seriously, you even refute the need to test speakers in the same room, at the exact same spot, same amp, source. go tell that to Harman and JBL who designed their testing room and super advanced blind test room. while your at it, go read about blind testing and the effect of sighted testing.
http://seanolive.blogspot.ca/2009/04/dishonesty-of-sighted-audio-product.html

you says:
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And actually you have, as usual, failed to understand the concept of synergy. Running a cheap crummy 50 watt class D amplifier into a few different speakers and then saying "I have used the same source and amp" doesn't remotely mean you have kept apples to apples.
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why do you even talk about that or bring this, ive never had a class d 50 wpc, all the class d I have are low powered ta2020 or ta2021. no, I never tried SET with my AN J LX so I fail to understand synergy? right.
you and your ad homniem attacks. at least try to attack me with facts.
I have a 6b4g dht tube amp, a class a sony ta707es, a lm3875 gainclone and a class d. thats not enough for you?

you says:
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It's not fair to the manufacturer
for me to be wasting their time.
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oh, but its fair that you comment about a speaker in every forum, ATC for example, that you never tried in your room and spent days playing music threw them.
right, your a fair guy.