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Well, no arrogance intended, rather respect
Posted by rbolaw on January 8, 2017 at 12:24:33:
for Kertesz, Ancerl, Neumann, and the other famous conductors of the past mentioned in this thread. My point, which I don't think was arrogant, was that you can't put how a particular recording comes out entirely on the conductor. If one Kertesz version differs markedly from another of the same work, that would support my point.
I think the best way to evaluate a conductor is in live performance of an orchestra he or she has directed full time for many years, ideally not of a standard warhorse like the Dvorak 7, 8 or 9. Even then, you can't pin everything on the conductor. Look at the NY Philharmonic, where long time concertmaster Glenn Dicterow recently turned 65 and retired. Dicterow had been brought over from the LA Philharmonic by Zubin Mehta. So every music director since has been obliged to work with Mehta's hand picked concertmaster rather than his own.
I do concede that when a conductor compiles an extensive discography over a long career, especially with orchestras he directed for many years, there comes a point where he has to own its overall success or failure. Even there, I'm not looking at his New World or Pathetique Symphony to gauge his success.