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In Reply to: RE: If you need such "display routines" to confirm personal patriotism, then so be it... posted by feet's too big on November 07, 2009 at 04:09:53
but I found such glutinous self-indulgent self-congratulatory display thoroughly distasteful..."
I found a lucid and clarifing interpretation of the American Pledge of Allegiance, outstanding in helping all Americans recognize the spirit and intent of the pledge so that it's words do not become stale and lose their meaning, but instead infuse those who invoke it with an appreciation for it's intent, as well as encouraging contemplation of the responsiblity all Americans have to one another, our unique freedoms and just how this nation works.
"But then, I've always wondered just how much of a keen patriotism likely to be so inbuilt into the personalities of most folk that it would never need be questioned would actually need(!) to be obviously displayed, and if so, quite why that might be the case... :o)"
To answer that, you would need to research who Red Skelton was, what was the nature of his TV show, the times in which it was produced and what the USA was going through when that particular episode was produced.
"In the US, for whatever reason(!), an apparent need to make some obvious routine display of Disney-style "patriotism" does seem to be curiously widespread amongst that culture... :o)"
Unfortuntaely Bill, you have displayed (yet again) a profound ignorance of America and in doing so, you have (routinely) insulted the American people. Once an American leaves High School, there aren't many situations where acknowledging and sharing a public devotion to our nation is called for. Also, you make the considerable and incredibly exaggerated leap of commenting on one individual out of nations of hundreds of millions "publically displaying" his devotion to our country 50 years ago, to projecting that onto all of us 50 years later. Your own participation here at the WC where you probably have more contact with Americans than in any other circumstance of your life should clearly illustrate the opposite of your findings.
After a few years of reading your posts, your "routine displays" of negative criticism regarding any obvious and straightforward fondness for America by Americans, as well as Americans preferring American Beer (served ice cold as opposed to piss warm), American Sports (where a 7th inning stretch is preferred to a tea break) and American Movies (where determined men with normal hair speak less and act more as opposed to men in powdered wigs just sitting around gratuitously engaging in verbal masturbation) now seems more a robotic and programmed response on your part than an honest and organic reaction to something you simply don't like. Perhaps you've made things simple and easy for yourself by deciding, and apparently quite some time ago, to just not like or respect the things American people do. Perhaps it's an intellectual, political or even CULTURAL fashion statement of sorts among those who consider themselves well to do Brits to mindlessly make "glutinous self-indulgent self-congratulatory displays" of despising America. Or as we call it in America-a circle jerk.
Naturally, whilst writing this, I naturally decided that this is all I have to naturally say about this unnatural matter and have naturally decided to let you have the last word whilst I attend to domestic matters this afternoon. I hope you are enjoying your week end, and wish to pass on this tidbit that I am watching the whole of "Fawlty Towers" tonight and tomorrow night on DVD, which was given to me yesterday by of all things-an Englishman, who calls my humble nation his home and wishes to remain here, living just a few short miles from the City of Brotherly Love. I'll ask him to say hello to Billy Penn for you.
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