FirstI want to thank "Alpha Al " for suggesting the Mueller 60C all copper alligator clips. In conjunction with the Mil Spec wire, they were somewhat better sounding than "stock" alligator clips on the ends. The 60Cs allowed me to make better subjective decisions, easier. Way to go, Al !!
As of Wednesday, 8-16-16, I have had the time to evaluate all four main caps associated with my amp's B+ supply, and also the two main Rk caps that bypass my Type 45 tubes' cathode resistor. Six film caps in total - so far.
Out of these six film caps, ( I went back and forth listening very carefully, on each of the six film caps,) I discovered that 5 out of the 6 in my SET were installed 180 degrees wrong. That is some percentage !!! 83.33% backwards. WOW.
( Also helpful, using clip leads ) I find that with LSES ( Low Stored Energy Supply ) B+ filtering, the AMOUNT of WIRE in the B+ ( and ground ) systems plays a large roll in the SET's ultimate performance. I USED the newly made " good " clip leads to add wire, between each wired span of the power supply, and LISTENED to the effect, to find the OPTIMAL amount.
Speakers over 100 dB ( ALTEC, JBL, ALE ) are the needed tools for doing audio design by ear. In most cases, I added MORE wire than what was originally there. IF you add too much wire, you LOSE high end, and the music's pace and timing, so - one must trade-off intelligently.
The WIRE exercise was worth the time and effort.
I am HESITANT, its premature, to FULLY discuss what I heard, because the front end of this SET amp now " begs" to be both wire and cap optimized, as I just did to the supply and Type 45 Finals' Rks. When I finish this, I will know better what the overall result will sound like, and if I made any mistakes. So far, me thinks, so good.
One thing I am willing to bet, 99.99% of the people listening to SET amps, Push-Pull tube amps, etc., have NO CLUE as to if ALL their expensive, fancy smancy film caps, are installed in their optimal 180 degree position !! No one ( I know of ) has listened to EACH film cap, both positions, on well-wired / optimized high efficiency speakers.
For the record, in my DIY passive speaker crossovers ( ALTEC VOTT A7-800s ), the film caps - are ALL 180 degree optimized, eight film caps...YES !!
Get to it Dudes,....new audio playback pleasures might possibly await you !!
Have fun.
Jeff Medwin
PS, An old LA, CA friend, Enid Lumley would have really liked this !! She was "something else " !
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Topic - Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - drlowmu 08:24:26 08/18/16 (20)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - 91derlust 01:03:15 08/21/16 (0)
- 100db speakers - like your A7 VOTTs?! You can't be serious. - Timbo in Oz 20:24:15 08/19/16 (8)
- RE: 100db speakers - like your A7 VOTTs?! You can't be serious. - PakProtector 17:59:24 08/23/16 (6)
- I would certainly not expect to hear nuances and small changes. - Timbo in Oz 22:08:36 08/23/16 (5)
- RE: I would certainly not expect to hear nuances and small changes. - PakProtector 13:45:11 08/24/16 (4)
- The 63s will run off two modified LEAK Stereo 20s, strapped and high-pass filtered at 150Hz - Timbo in Oz 14:50:19 08/24/16 (3)
- KEF B139s in TL cabinets - Lew 11:10:00 08/27/16 (0)
- Tim, The system will only be as good as the modded Leak Amps - drlowmu 00:29:46 08/25/16 (1)
- Go away Geoff. - Timbo in Oz 03:19:38 08/25/16 (0)
- RE: 100db speakers - like your A7 VOTTs?! You can't be serious. - drlowmu 15:32:29 08/21/16 (0)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - Lew 10:54:08 08/18/16 (5)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - drlowmu 12:40:47 08/18/16 (4)
- "How the film cap is wound does not GUARANTEE what will sound best in the circuit." - Lew 14:29:39 08/20/16 (3)
- RE: "How the film cap is wound does not GUARANTEE what will sound best in the circuit." - drlowmu 07:02:46 08/21/16 (2)
- I know I'm getting old... - Lew 12:15:38 08/21/16 (1)
- RE: I know I'm getting old... - drlowmu 14:05:23 08/21/16 (0)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - hennfarm 09:11:31 08/18/16 (3)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - drlowmu 12:49:57 08/18/16 (2)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - 91derlust 15:12:57 08/18/16 (1)
- RE: Initial Report, Film Cap 180 degree orientation - Employing new-style Clip Leads - drlowmu 09:40:01 08/19/16 (0)