In Reply to: RE: Changing internal output wiring of DAC posted by danlaudionut on August 11, 2014 at 05:53:02:
>Feedback in amps would not have any effect
>since so much feedback is used in the recording.
Lack of feedback certainly has an effect, if it leads to excessive, and noticeable, distortion. But the argument does demonstrate that massive feedback, as used in the modern SS equipment in the recording process, is harmless enough.
>Tubes vs SS would have no effect since
>so much SS is used in the recording studio.
To the extent that tubes give rise to a "tube sound," it is because of colourations they introduce, and so certainly one tube amplifier at the end of a long chain of SS amplification can affect the final sound.
>Since speakers have so much distortion then
>the small distortion of the amp shouldn't be heard.
There are different kinds of distortion, and the kinds introduced by the speaker may well be different, and distinguishable, from those introduced by the amplifier. Having said that, tests seem to indicate that humans have a pretty hard time distinguishing between amplifiers on the basis of their distortion, provided the THD is reasonably, but not incredibly, small.
>It is an absurd argument and falls appart
>when looked at closely and rationally.
I don't agree. How, for example, would you counter the argument that replacing a few inches of copper wire by silver wire at the end of a long chain of prior lengths of copper wire will have a negligible proportionate effect?
Chris
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- RE: Changing internal output wiring of DAC - cpotl 06:48:41 08/11/14 (76)
- Agree 100% - gusser 10:20:32 08/11/14 (1)
- RE: Agree 100% - Triode_Kingdom 13:38:54 08/11/14 (0)
- RE: Changing internal output wiring of DAC - danlaudionut 07:09:31 08/11/14 (73)
- RE: Changing internal output wiring of DAC - cpotl 10:30:14 08/11/14 (72)
- Silver does indeed react to magnetic fields differently from copper... - Cleantimestream 14:47:54 08/12/14 (60)
- RE: Silver does indeed react to magnetic fields differently from copper... - cpotl 19:50:26 08/12/14 (59)
- Perhaps if I stated in another way, copper HAS magnetic properties... surprised? 2 1/2 times More magnetic - Cleantimestream 20:17:17 08/12/14 (58)
- RE: Perhaps if I stated in another way, copper HAS magnetic properties... surprised? 2 1/2 times More magnetic - cpotl 20:21:54 08/12/14 (57)
- LOL !!!!! - unclestu 20:47:26 08/12/14 (56)
- RE: LOL !!!!! - cpotl 21:32:27 08/12/14 (55)
- RE: LOL !!!!! - Cleantimestream 06:15:53 08/13/14 (29)
- Documentation needed - Triode_Kingdom 10:43:04 08/13/14 (27)
- sigh, - Cleantimestream 12:46:52 08/13/14 (26)
- RE: sigh, - Triode_Kingdom 08:05:29 08/14/14 (1)
- RE: sigh, - Cleantimestream 12:28:20 08/14/14 (0)
- RE: sigh, - cpotl 13:19:23 08/13/14 (23)
- RE: sigh, - Cleantimestream 14:07:23 08/13/14 (22)
- RE: sigh, - cpotl 14:12:06 08/13/14 (21)
- RE: sigh, - Cleantimestream 14:20:00 08/13/14 (20)
- Speaking of rude, - The Bored 07:27:01 08/14/14 (0)
- RE: sigh, - cpotl 14:24:45 08/13/14 (18)
- You poor man~nT - Cleantimestream 14:41:31 08/13/14 (17)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 14:48:09 08/13/14 (16)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Tre' 17:18:03 08/13/14 (5)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 18:02:29 08/13/14 (4)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Tre' 20:24:14 08/13/14 (0)
- RE: You poor man~nT - dave slagle 18:29:54 08/13/14 (2)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 18:45:03 08/13/14 (1)
- In a word... - op48no1 18:47:21 08/13/14 (0)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Cleantimestream 14:54:18 08/13/14 (9)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 15:05:28 08/13/14 (8)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Cleantimestream 15:10:58 08/13/14 (7)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 15:21:09 08/13/14 (6)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Cleantimestream 15:34:23 08/13/14 (5)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 15:37:37 08/13/14 (4)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Cleantimestream 15:56:28 08/13/14 (3)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 16:05:19 08/13/14 (2)
- RE: You poor man~nT - Cleantimestream 04:06:40 08/14/14 (1)
- RE: You poor man~nT - cpotl 05:34:41 08/14/14 (0)
- RE: LOL !!!!! - cpotl 06:32:54 08/13/14 (0)
- numbers - unclestu 22:00:28 08/12/14 (24)
- RE: numbers - cpotl 22:16:53 08/12/14 (23)
- more LOL - unclestu 23:29:46 08/12/14 (22)
- RE: more LOL - cpotl 01:24:20 08/13/14 (21)
- Changing your tune a bit - unclestu 13:54:16 08/13/14 (20)
- RE: Changing your tune a bit - cpotl 14:07:44 08/13/14 (19)
- RE: Changing your tune a bit - unclestu 15:06:32 08/13/14 (18)
- RE: Changing your tune a bit - cpotl 15:14:20 08/13/14 (17)
- AsI wrote earlier - unclestu 15:27:48 08/13/14 (16)
- Cpotl: - gusser 16:00:34 08/13/14 (15)
- Well - unclestu 18:30:49 08/13/14 (10)
- Yes, the old Kimber black wire story. - gusser 07:55:19 08/14/14 (3)
- RE: Yes, the old Kimber black wire story. - unclestu 23:36:36 08/15/14 (2)
- RE: Yes, the old Kimber black wire story. - gusser 14:13:50 08/16/14 (0)
- John Curl? - op48no1 08:53:30 08/16/14 (0)
- RE: Well - Tre' 21:27:47 08/13/14 (5)
- RE: Cpotl: - cpotl 17:28:53 08/13/14 (3)
- RE: Cpotl: - dave slagle 18:06:37 08/13/14 (2)
- RE: Cpotl: - cpotl 18:19:27 08/13/14 (1)
- RE: Cpotl: - Tre' 21:16:23 08/13/14 (0)
- There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - danlaudionut 11:08:45 08/11/14 (10)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - gusser 11:53:44 08/11/14 (9)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - dave slagle 13:12:50 08/11/14 (1)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - Steve O 05:59:49 08/13/14 (0)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - danlaudionut 12:18:29 08/11/14 (6)
- You forgot the obvious - unclestu 16:48:54 08/11/14 (0)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - cpotl 12:45:04 08/11/14 (3)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - danlaudionut 12:46:48 08/11/14 (2)
- RE: There's none so blind as those who will not see. (nt) - cpotl 12:50:26 08/11/14 (1)
- This is like matching wits with an unarmed man (nt) - danlaudionut 14:30:11 08/11/14 (0)
- OK, thanks for sharing your views on this. (nt) - gusser 12:23:14 08/11/14 (0)