RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project

Posted by Joe Roberts (M) on September 9, 2012 at 14:38:38

In Reply to: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project posted by Eric Chan on September 9, 2012 at 07:02:17:

PP300b is fantastic. I would not hesitate. Do not expect pure SE sound but something a bit more tight and precise.

That's the scary part...how can you know if PP keeps what you like about SE 300Bs? You might even like PP more....or you might hate it.

We took these stupid-fancy PP300B amps to the Munich show

http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/P300.html

After a few wicked power surges and two total power failures, something in one of those monos was not working right, so we switched to SE300B.

Even with mega efficient horns, playing at crazy loud show volumes I noticed a slight 'fuzzy' quality to the SE, and these are very precise sounding high dollar SE amps.

jc morrison designed both amps. His stuff all sounds good but it must be low distortion, wide bandwidth and rarely has a strong vintage flavor. He is a high tech dude.

I don't insist on any particular presentation anymore. I like clean and I like fat and juicy too. There are good and bad versions of each.

We all know SE can be fabulous when operated in appropriate situations. If you must have some variation of the psychedelic 300SE sound, you must play the 8W game and adjust speakers and expectations to that project.

I have heard wide variation in SE 300B, from mud, to drug-like juicy and organic, to icy cold. Driver stage, power supplies, and parts matter as much as the power tubes, maybe more.

Depending on your present SE amp, it might not be that much of a leap to PP.

PP 300B done right is a strong amp. PPP 300B starts getting complicated.

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Topic - 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Eric Chan 07:02:17 09/09/12 (23)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Solidcore 04:30:55 09/11/12 (0)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - bean 14:30:31 09/10/12 (0)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Joe Roberts 14:38:38 09/09/12 (2)

Check the article I linked in this post - Joe Roberts 07:37:25 09/10/12 (0)

Completely agree! (nt) - SteveBrown 16:17:19 09/09/12 (0)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Neff 08:33:05 09/09/12 (17)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - dave slagle 11:13:35 09/09/12 (6)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Neff 14:12:30 09/09/12 (5)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Naz 07:38:01 09/10/12 (2)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - dave slagle 11:53:48 09/10/12 (1)

RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Naz 15:52:52 09/10/12 (0)

Single Ended Parallel tubes has been "smeared", absolutely nothing wrong with it. - Chris O 14:32:14 09/09/12 (1)

RE: Single Ended Parallel tubes has been "smeared", absolutely nothing wrong with it. - Neff 14:39:49 09/09/12 (0)

SE input stages and a phase splitting interstage - andy evans 09:11:19 09/09/12 (9)

RE: SE input stages and a phase splitting interstage - Retsel 14:00:44 09/10/12 (0)

Voices are just so real - Triode_Kingdom 15:58:27 09/09/12 (7)

RE: Voices are just so real - Naz 08:07:59 09/10/12 (0)

RE: Voices are just so real - Neff 19:21:15 09/09/12 (0)

RE: Voices are just so real - Joe Roberts 17:58:14 09/09/12 (1)

RE: Voices behind me........... - Neff 19:27:10 09/09/12 (0)

RE: Voices are just so real - andy evans 17:49:31 09/09/12 (2)

RE: Voices are just so real - Joe Roberts 18:07:23 09/09/12 (1)

And bells and triangles! - andy evans 18:30:57 09/09/12 (0)

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RE: 300B PP or SE, serious DIY project - Joe Roberts 14:38:38 09/09/12 (2)

Check the article I linked in this post - Joe Roberts 07:37:25 09/10/12 (0)

Completely agree! (nt) - SteveBrown 16:17:19 09/09/12 (0)

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