In Reply to: RE: NO, posted by cpotl on August 20, 2015 at 09:09:47:
Haven't you heard the latest audiophile theory against DBT's.Such testing is believed to be too stressful on the subject. The intense pressure due to the risk of being proven wrong creates an anxiety to where the subject can no longer focus on the subtle differences and thus hears no difference.
And the key word there is "subtle"!
When these outlandish claims are first presented, the reports are always "huge, ground breaking, night & day, my IPOD listening spouse even heard the difference".
But when pushed for measurements or DBT's, these "huge" differences suddenly become to small to measure or detect by controlled testing.
There is just no end to the BS and probably never will be.
Edits: 08/20/15
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- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - RGA 16:33:44 08/23/15 (4)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - morricab 04:37:18 08/24/15 (3)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - RGA 02:23:32 08/25/15 (2)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - morricab 04:04:57 08/28/15 (1)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - RGA 03:05:31 08/29/15 (0)
- Many Times... - Interstage Tranny 16:38:05 08/14/15 (111)
- RE: Many Times... - TonyB 08:58:57 08/21/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - Garg0yle 16:52:55 08/14/15 (109)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 12:05:42 08/16/15 (73)
- RE: Many Times... - Paul Joppa 11:14:55 08/17/15 (72)
- Agreed, that has been my experience. because science is ignorant @ present, does NOT make it so-nT - Cleantimestream 08:36:15 08/21/15 (0)
- Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 15:00:48 08/19/15 (6)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - morricab 01:41:16 08/20/15 (5)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 07:30:04 08/20/15 (4)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - morricab 15:18:18 08/21/15 (3)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 17:46:46 08/23/15 (2)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - morricab 02:31:04 08/24/15 (1)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 10:04:23 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 10:35:41 08/18/15 (59)
- RE: "break-in" effects always seem to be for the better. - danlaudionut 08:47:46 08/20/15 (41)
- RE: "break-in" effects always seem to be for the better. - SETdude 11:19:13 08/20/15 (40)
- Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 12:17:23 08/20/15 (39)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:20:15 08/21/15 (38)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 13:01:09 08/22/15 (37)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 01:22:42 08/23/15 (35)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 14:21:32 08/23/15 (7)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 04:25:28 08/24/15 (6)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 10:20:12 08/24/15 (5)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 11:40:55 08/24/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 11:47:05 08/24/15 (2)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 12:01:08 08/24/15 (1)
- Largly wrong about amp design? - gusser 12:09:06 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 11:04:38 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 10:47:33 08/23/15 (26)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 03:54:27 08/24/15 (25)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 09:58:56 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 05:02:53 08/24/15 (23)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 08:40:49 08/24/15 (22)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 09:19:35 08/24/15 (20)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:49:33 08/24/15 (19)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 21:11:08 08/24/15 (18)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 02:44:01 08/25/15 (12)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 12:08:01 08/25/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:33:54 08/25/15 (2)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 20:43:22 08/25/15 (1)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 01:17:23 08/26/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 06:52:07 08/25/15 (7)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:38:59 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:14:18 08/25/15 (5)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:47:59 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:16:15 08/25/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 11:25:29 08/25/15 (2)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 18:03:36 08/25/15 (1)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Mr_Steady 19:04:24 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 22:38:47 08/24/15 (4)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 23:35:48 08/24/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 02:46:03 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 00:03:18 08/25/15 (1)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 01:11:21 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:06:26 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Tre' 21:36:48 08/22/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - gusser 12:13:06 08/19/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - SETdude 01:20:06 08/19/15 (15)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 12:30:56 08/19/15 (14)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 01:51:42 08/20/15 (9)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 02:15:26 08/20/15 (8)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 07:03:40 08/20/15 (7)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 08:14:02 08/20/15 (6)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 15:28:44 08/21/15 (5)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 02:07:44 08/22/15 (4)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 04:08:47 08/24/15 (3)
- You set a high standard for yourself! - gusser 11:11:39 08/24/15 (2)
- RE: You set a high standard for yourself! - morricab 11:49:29 08/24/15 (1)
- Thats' not what I said! - gusser 11:57:16 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - Donald North 14:12:58 08/19/15 (3)
- Many variables - gusser 14:25:23 08/19/15 (2)
- RE: Many variables - Donald North 14:30:09 08/19/15 (1)
- Quite true - gusser 14:43:52 08/19/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - Garg0yle 18:15:49 08/17/15 (3)
- RE: Many Times... - gusser 12:06:52 08/19/15 (2)
- RE: Many Times... - Donald North 14:25:38 08/19/15 (1)
- RE: Many Times... - gusser 14:40:22 08/19/15 (0)
- RE: Transformers do not need to break in. - danlaudionut 22:20:37 08/14/15 (34)
- NO, - gusser 12:22:26 08/19/15 (32)
- RE: NO, - danlaudionut 19:03:41 08/19/15 (31)
- RE: NO, - cpotl 01:19:36 08/20/15 (30)
- RE: NO, - danlaudionut 07:30:22 08/20/15 (29)
- RE: NO, - cpotl 07:56:06 08/20/15 (27)
- RE: NO, - danlaudionut 08:38:16 08/20/15 (26)
- RE: NO, - cpotl 09:09:47 08/20/15 (8)
- RE: NO, - danlaudionut 10:55:30 08/20/15 (6)
- RE: NO, - cpotl 10:58:22 08/20/15 (5)
- RE: NO, - danlaudionut 12:34:54 08/20/15 (4)
- 20khz at 57 years old? - gusser 13:19:41 08/20/15 (2)
- RE: 20khz at 57 years old? - danlaudionut 17:42:50 08/20/15 (1)
- RE: 20khz at 57 years old? - Tre' 18:07:30 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: NO, - cpotl 12:49:13 08/20/15 (0)
- DBT's don't work! - gusser 09:33:20 08/20/15 (0)
- It's been 35 years now! - gusser 09:00:24 08/20/15 (16)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - danlaudionut 10:52:50 08/20/15 (15)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - SETdude 11:15:36 08/20/15 (1)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - danlaudionut 12:43:28 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - gusser 11:00:45 08/20/15 (12)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - morricab 15:40:21 08/21/15 (0)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - danlaudionut 12:41:43 08/20/15 (10)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - deafbykhorns 17:00:28 08/20/15 (5)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - Garg0yle 17:48:13 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - danlaudionut 17:44:18 08/20/15 (3)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - Tre' 18:39:19 08/20/15 (2)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - danlaudionut 19:46:35 08/20/15 (1)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - cpotl 06:59:11 08/21/15 (0)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - gusser 13:14:17 08/20/15 (2)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - danlaudionut 17:47:36 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - Donald North 16:27:03 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: It's been 35 years now! - Garg0yle 13:13:36 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: NO, - gusser 07:38:35 08/20/15 (0)
- RE: Transformers do not need to break in. - drlowmu 22:35:32 08/14/15 (0)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - Frihed89 02:17:08 08/11/15 (3)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - morricab 12:15:57 08/13/15 (2)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - Frihed89 15:30:34 08/13/15 (1)
- RE: Anyone upgrade the output transformers on their amps? - morricab 07:12:03 08/20/15 (0)
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- DBT's don't work! - gusser 09:33:20 08/20/15 (0)