In Reply to: RE: Many Times... posted by cpotl on August 16, 2015 at 12:05:42:
Let me make a small correction - "there is no KNOWN scientific reason ..." We don't know everything, and specifically we don't know what we don't know.
My experience is that caps and transformers sound pretty bad at first, and in most cases 50 hours or so of music will resolve the problem. I have on occasion listened to a new amp and guessed (correctly) from the sound that the transformer was not yet broken in. Similarly I have done break-in on the bench driving resistors, and heard the difference (5 minutes listening, then 50 hours silent breakin, then listening again) in order to eliminate the effect of becoming gradually accustomed to the sound. On a couple occasions I have not listened at all until the 50 hours breakin was over, and then heard no problems and no change over the next 50 hours. So I at least am convinced something is going on, and while I have no explanation, I can use this knowledge to correctly predict what will happen.
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- RE: Many Times... - Paul Joppa 11:14:55 08/17/15 (72)
- Agreed, that has been my experience. because science is ignorant @ present, does NOT make it so-nT - Cleantimestream 08:36:15 08/21/15 (0)
- Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 15:00:48 08/19/15 (6)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - morricab 01:41:16 08/20/15 (5)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 07:30:04 08/20/15 (4)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - morricab 15:18:18 08/21/15 (3)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 17:46:46 08/23/15 (2)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - morricab 02:31:04 08/24/15 (1)
- RE: Let's step out of audio for a minute! - gusser 10:04:23 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 10:35:41 08/18/15 (59)
- RE: "break-in" effects always seem to be for the better. - danlaudionut 08:47:46 08/20/15 (41)
- RE: "break-in" effects always seem to be for the better. - SETdude 11:19:13 08/20/15 (40)
- Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 12:17:23 08/20/15 (39)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:20:15 08/21/15 (38)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 13:01:09 08/22/15 (37)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 01:22:42 08/23/15 (35)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 14:21:32 08/23/15 (7)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 04:25:28 08/24/15 (6)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 10:20:12 08/24/15 (5)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 11:40:55 08/24/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 11:47:05 08/24/15 (2)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 12:01:08 08/24/15 (1)
- Largly wrong about amp design? - gusser 12:09:06 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 11:04:38 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 10:47:33 08/23/15 (26)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 03:54:27 08/24/15 (25)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 09:58:56 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 05:02:53 08/24/15 (23)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 08:40:49 08/24/15 (22)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 09:19:35 08/24/15 (20)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:49:33 08/24/15 (19)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 21:11:08 08/24/15 (18)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 02:44:01 08/25/15 (12)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 12:08:01 08/25/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:33:54 08/25/15 (2)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - gusser 20:43:22 08/25/15 (1)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 01:17:23 08/26/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 06:52:07 08/25/15 (7)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:38:59 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:14:18 08/25/15 (5)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 15:47:59 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:16:15 08/25/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 11:25:29 08/25/15 (2)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 18:03:36 08/25/15 (1)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Mr_Steady 19:04:24 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 22:38:47 08/24/15 (4)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 23:35:48 08/24/15 (3)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - morricab 02:46:03 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 00:03:18 08/25/15 (1)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - cpotl 01:11:21 08/25/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Garg0yle 09:06:26 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Nobody here ever said tubes don't need break in. (nt) - Tre' 21:36:48 08/22/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - gusser 12:13:06 08/19/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - SETdude 01:20:06 08/19/15 (15)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 12:30:56 08/19/15 (14)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 01:51:42 08/20/15 (9)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 02:15:26 08/20/15 (8)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 07:03:40 08/20/15 (7)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 08:14:02 08/20/15 (6)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 15:28:44 08/21/15 (5)
- RE: Many Times... - cpotl 02:07:44 08/22/15 (4)
- RE: Many Times... - morricab 04:08:47 08/24/15 (3)
- You set a high standard for yourself! - gusser 11:11:39 08/24/15 (2)
- RE: You set a high standard for yourself! - morricab 11:49:29 08/24/15 (1)
- Thats' not what I said! - gusser 11:57:16 08/24/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - Donald North 14:12:58 08/19/15 (3)
- Many variables - gusser 14:25:23 08/19/15 (2)
- RE: Many variables - Donald North 14:30:09 08/19/15 (1)
- Quite true - gusser 14:43:52 08/19/15 (0)
- RE: Many Times... - Garg0yle 18:15:49 08/17/15 (3)
- RE: Many Times... - gusser 12:06:52 08/19/15 (2)
- RE: Many Times... - Donald North 14:25:38 08/19/15 (1)
- RE: Many Times... - gusser 14:40:22 08/19/15 (0)