In Reply to: You don't need the second half posted by Frihed89 on October 28, 2014 at 15:42:18:
That is the 1947 Lipman-Robin amp. A 6SF5 is like a 6F5, with a mu of 100, which is also much like a 12AX7. or, more correctly, half of a 12AX7. The $2.00 ( in 1947 ) Lipman-Robin book entitled " Practical Amplifier Designs" and subtitled "45 Proven Circuits for the Technician and Experimentor", describes this circuit you show us, and has a parts list. If anyone wants this data, contact me.
In Japan in the 1960s, 1970s, people like Isamu Asano had "their" versions of the same Lipman-Robin amp, as did Nobu Shishido who unfortunately, paralleled both sections of the 12AX7, an inherently inferior approach. ( Skews the music on a mu of 100 tube ). Maybe we didn't really get Nobu's "best" DC circuit, just "one published for the public " ??
Readers should realize, a indirectly heated mu of 100-DHT finals amp of this type, ( two stage and DC coupled )done properly, is about as good as it gets on efficient speakers.
Andy Evans in the UK has a small listening area and does NOT use efficient speakers, so, he builds "current" amps for his ten inch 92 dB (?) driver, not voltage-swinging amps.
Also, most experienced people I have met in audio, and on this Forum, do not know how to effectively bypass an Rk!! Dennis Fraker knows how !!
On efficient speakers, Andy's double 4P1L amp will get eaten by any well made 1/2 12AX7-DHT Finals amp. The low overall gain of Andy's amp, will make the efficient speaker play "dead and lifeless" at lower listening levels, no fun, and the amp will only come somewhat alive when pushed hard. Remember, its a current amp, not a voltage-swinging amp. Now on Andy's less efficient speakers, its hard to say if the opposite would occur.
Poor Andy, has never had the pleasure of hearing a recent pair of Serious Stereo amps, with a INdirectly heated mu of 100 input tube, and a 2A3 output tube. The Serious Stereo amp, particularly recent production, that only Dennis Fraker properly pulls off, is still my favorite for efficient speakers ( 98 dB and above ) in THIS world.
Have fun,
Jeff Medwin
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Follow Ups
- RE: You don't need the second half - drlowmu 13:14:36 10/29/14 (42)
- And dynosaurs ate the world.... - andy evans 01:50:36 10/30/14 (41)
- RE: And dynosaurs ate the world.... - Ray Moth 12:37:55 11/03/14 (2)
- Ho Hum.... - drlowmu 07:23:16 11/05/14 (1)
- That's not nice, Jeff - Ray Moth 15:30:30 11/05/14 (0)
- Then have a look at this one, both you Andy and the OP - Frihed89 16:17:25 11/01/14 (26)
- By God! The guy has built my amp! - andy evans 11:56:59 11/02/14 (2)
- Shame - jusbe 00:17:09 11/03/14 (0)
- That's what I thought - Frihed89 22:58:45 11/02/14 (0)
- RE: Then have a look at this one, both you Andy and the OP - drlowmu 19:48:57 11/01/14 (22)
- Filament bias is DC not AC - andy evans 12:00:56 11/02/14 (0)
- Sure,but... - RC Daniel 00:37:05 11/02/14 (20)
- RE: Sure,but... - Tre' 07:42:35 11/02/14 (1)
- RE: Sure,but... - RC Daniel 11:37:50 11/02/14 (0)
- Solution - smart845 00:59:00 11/02/14 (17)
- Is the tube... - RC Daniel 11:40:34 11/02/14 (0)
- Partial solution, good only for ONE tube - drlowmu 07:45:09 11/02/14 (15)
- UK mains - Al Noakes 10:13:05 11/02/14 (10)
- Local? - smart845 00:28:55 11/03/14 (9)
- BALANCED design only ....... - drlowmu 07:45:08 11/05/14 (5)
- "You" designed the transformer? - gusser 14:41:29 11/05/14 (3)
- RE: "You" designed the transformer? - drlowmu 09:47:57 11/07/14 (2)
- I don't buy it! - gusser 10:05:35 11/07/14 (1)
- Wrong again,.................. look more carefully. - drlowmu 12:41:46 11/07/14 (0)
- RE: BALANCED design only ....... - Al Noakes 14:31:25 11/05/14 (0)
- RE: Local? - Al Noakes 01:58:22 11/03/14 (2)
- RE: Local? - smart845 08:14:02 11/04/14 (1)
- RE: Local? - Al Noakes 10:24:18 11/07/14 (0)
- RE: Partial solution, good only for ONE tube - Al Noakes 08:01:27 11/02/14 (3)
- RE: Partial solution, good only for ONE tube - drlowmu 09:23:36 11/02/14 (2)
- RE: Partial solution, good only for ONE tube - Al Noakes 10:08:07 11/02/14 (1)
- Yep. nt. - RC Daniel 11:42:09 11/02/14 (0)
- RE: don't feel bad ... - deathtube 667 07:59:13 10/31/14 (0)
- RE: And dynosaurs ate the world.... - drlowmu 07:31:49 10/30/14 (9)
- OK, the dynosaurs didn't eat the whole world.... - andy evans 08:05:37 10/30/14 (8)
- Here is " how it is" ... in tube amps and speakers . - drlowmu 17:07:53 10/31/14 (6)
- And here's how it is on my side - andy evans 01:11:30 11/01/14 (5)
- and at your experience level ........ - drlowmu 07:19:57 11/01/14 (4)
- RE: alpair 10 - deathtube 667 18:04:13 11/01/14 (3)
- "look like a decent multimedia loudspeaker"!!! - andy evans 05:32:25 11/02/14 (2)
- +1 - drlowmu 07:49:20 11/02/14 (0)
- RE: "look like a decent multimedia loudspeaker"!!! - deathtube 667 06:24:40 11/02/14 (0)
- RE: OK, the dynosaurs didn't eat the whole world.... - drlowmu 13:04:16 10/30/14 (0)