In Reply to: Re: 3rd harmonic distortion posted by Soundmind on December 29, 2004 at 09:38:41:
Wow did I struggle with those equations in control theory. Very complex. Then one day about 20 years ago I saw my first PLC and understood immediately what it was about. Modern industrial controls in machine design or building automation systems are unthinkable without PLCs and there is little more useful in a PLC than the ability to use negative feedback to exercise control over just about anything. I've taken a few hands on seminars in PLCs and tried a couple of simple programs but most PLC projects I've been involved in was as a project manager. However, in some of them, the overall concepts were my own. These involved HVAC controls to maintain positive pressure in laboratories with variable use of fume hoods. I also was involved in automation of a chiller plant. Negative feedback between a set point and a sensor output difference is invariably the driving force in every system I've seen. Amplifier circuits without negative feedback are actually completely out of control. No compensation at all for countless variables from temperature to bias drift. I would not think of buying one or owning one that didn't use negative feedback skillfully. OTOH, those who can't use this technique effectively are wise to stay away from it. In the wrong hands, it can be an unmitigated disaster.
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- Re: 3rd harmonic distortion - Soundmind 11:52:40 12/29/04 (51)
- Re: 3rd harmonic distortion - Jon Risch 19:29:17 01/01/05 (3)
- Re: 3rd harmonic distortion - john curl 16:01:10 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: 3rd harmonic distortion - Tom Dawson 10:07:10 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: 3rd harmonic distortion - jneutron 08:55:16 01/03/05 (0)
- Control theory ? - MAD MAN HARJU 14:22:18 12/30/04 (46)
- Of course you can compare them! - clifff 01:47:10 12/31/04 (44)
- Re: Of course you can compare them! - Soundmind 08:13:16 12/31/04 (43)
- You can’t compare the end result. - MAD MAN HARJU 07:15:18 01/01/05 (42)
- Re: You can’t compare the end result. - Soundmind 12:50:15 01/01/05 (41)
- Re: You can’t compare the end result. - john curl 16:18:09 01/02/05 (40)
- Re: You can’t compare the end result. - Soundmind 16:25:03 01/02/05 (39)
- Re: You can’t compare the end result. - john curl 16:53:46 01/02/05 (38)
- Re: You can’t compare the end result. - Soundmind 20:00:09 01/02/05 (37)
- A really big can of worms - MAD MAN HARJU 04:07:50 01/03/05 (36)
- Re: A really big can of worms - Soundmind 05:46:04 01/03/05 (35)
- Re: A really big can of worms - MAD MAN HARJU 11:11:56 01/03/05 (0)
- That depends on what the meaning of 'is' is. - Tom Dawson 09:55:28 01/03/05 (26)
- Hi Tom - jneutron 10:11:53 01/03/05 (25)
- Re: Hi Tom - Tom Dawson 15:43:30 01/04/05 (0)
- But John.... - Commuteman 12:21:10 01/03/05 (4)
- No buts... - jneutron 12:43:39 01/03/05 (3)
- Re: No buts... - Soundmind 13:36:40 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: bugging me - MAD MAN HARJU 12:52:18 01/03/05 (1)
- Re: bugging me - jneutron 13:58:16 01/03/05 (0)
- What engineering is and isn't - Soundmind 11:02:54 01/03/05 (18)
- And after all of that, when the final product sounds like shit... - Ivan303 17:56:11 01/25/05 (0)
- I'm sure that your Steinway - E-Stat 13:32:10 01/03/05 (1)
- The engineering of a Steinway - Soundmind 14:24:48 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - john curl 12:19:58 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - MAD MAN HARJU 11:58:32 01/03/05 (3)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - hitsware 17:26:32 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - Soundmind 13:29:04 01/03/05 (1)
- End of words??? - MAD MAN HARJU 13:57:37 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - john curl 11:34:30 01/03/05 (9)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - MAD MAN HARJU 13:08:30 01/03/05 (2)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - john curl 13:39:59 01/03/05 (1)
- Re: What engineering is - MAD MAN HARJU 14:16:04 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - Soundmind 11:57:45 01/03/05 (5)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - john curl 12:25:07 01/03/05 (4)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - Soundmind 12:38:59 01/03/05 (3)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - john curl 15:45:39 01/03/05 (2)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - Soundmind 18:46:13 01/03/05 (1)
- Re: What engineering is and isn't - john curl 20:16:58 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: A really big can of worms - MAD MAN HARJU 09:37:49 01/03/05 (6)
- Re: A really big can of worms - Soundmind 11:55:01 01/03/05 (5)
- Re: A really big can of worms - MAD MAN HARJU 12:15:38 01/03/05 (4)
- Re: A really big can of worms - jneutron 12:21:30 01/03/05 (3)
- Inaudible High-Frequency Sounds - MAD MAN HARJU 12:45:01 01/03/05 (2)
- Thanks. - jneutron 05:57:11 01/04/05 (0)
- Re: Another Question ? - hitsware 18:33:55 01/03/05 (0)
- Re: Control theory ? - Soundmind 18:36:19 12/30/04 (0)