RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG)

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Topic - Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - jrlaudio 00:46:42 11/03/12 (199)

re: initial post - Bill Way 19:27:09 12/12/12 (1)

re: "you can identify a Stradavarius in an instant by ear" - geoffkait 16:26:45 12/14/12 (0)

Follow-up by the OP - jrlaudio 21:31:45 11/24/12 (12)

electrostatic charge decay can take a LONG time - morricab 02:43:55 11/28/12 (1)

Short answer - unclestu 23:00:24 12/16/12 (0)

Oops - Jon Risch 19:00:35 11/25/12 (9)

RE: Oops - Mungo Jerry 07:53:22 11/26/12 (8)

RE: Oops - Jon Risch 19:34:53 11/27/12 (6)

RE: Oops - Mungo Jerry 06:20:33 11/28/12 (5)

RE: Oops - rick_m 08:23:07 11/28/12 (3)

RE: Oops - Goober58 07:11:17 12/05/12 (1)

RE: Oops - rick_m 08:30:21 12/06/12 (0)

RE: Oops - finski 16:23:18 11/28/12 (0)

Argumentum Ad Verecundium - geoffkait 08:13:33 11/28/12 (0)

"threatened by someone in the know" - this is a joke, right? - carcass93 12:03:00 11/27/12 (0)

If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Todd Krieger 15:51:41 11/19/12 (11)

RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - jrlaudio 18:29:24 11/24/12 (7)

Some Minor quibbles - unclestu 01:35:07 12/12/12 (1)

RE: Some Minor quibbles - Tony Lauck 14:20:46 12/12/12 (0)

Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - Goober58 18:40:42 11/24/12 (4)

RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - jrlaudio 19:27:06 11/24/12 (3)

RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - Goober58 21:25:16 11/24/12 (2)

RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - jrlaudio 22:32:12 11/24/12 (1)

RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - Goober58 09:58:05 11/25/12 (0)

RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Goober58 16:29:45 11/23/12 (0)

RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Tweekeng 15:27:35 11/22/12 (0)

RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Mungo Jerry 06:49:39 11/20/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - pictureguy 23:37:42 11/18/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 06:02:27 11/14/12 (3)

The French have an expression - geoffkait 06:37:34 11/14/12 (2)

RE: The French have an expression - villastrangiato 07:01:21 11/14/12 (1)

RE: The French have an expression - finski 07:19:15 11/14/12 (0)

Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - Elizabeth 09:52:49 11/13/12 (9)

RE: Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - villastrangiato 18:30:54 11/13/12 (8)

RE: Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - finski 18:37:31 11/13/12 (7)

RE: Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - villastrangiato 18:45:48 11/13/12 (6)

Your annoying, and do not 'get it'. So your posts ARE going to be scrutinized - Elizabeth 14:59:13 11/14/12 (5)

RE: Your annoying, and do not 'get it'. So your posts ARE going to be scrutinized - villastrangiato 16:22:32 11/14/12 (4)

Yeah, I feel better.. (just like after taking a big dump) hope you feel better too. nt - Elizabeth 16:55:32 11/14/12 (3)

RE: Yeah, I feel better.. (just like after taking a big dump) hope you feel better too. nt - finski 19:21:18 11/14/12 (2)

yes yes.. I am shrivelled up old hag, with my broken shopping cart, carting around my 19 cats... - Elizabeth 19:40:39 11/14/12 (1)

Killer soundstage, though... - kerr 07:18:56 11/15/12 (0)

Define accuracy - Presto 20:23:00 11/10/12 (45)

RE: Define accuracy - jrlaudio 13:11:29 11/24/12 (1)

RE: Define accuracy - Presto 19:29:36 12/03/12 (0)

RE: Define accuracy - villastrangiato 16:56:15 11/11/12 (41)

That was not the point of the original post... - Goober58 17:01:45 11/13/12 (3)

RE: That was not the point of the original post... - Presto 09:23:40 11/22/12 (2)

RE: That was not the point of the original post... - geoffkait 10:40:20 11/22/12 (1)

It didn't have to be that way - Goober58 16:44:47 11/23/12 (0)

Yeah, sad to say i have to agree with you. on off topic, AND the problem of making stuff up to sell audio. nt - Elizabeth 09:59:31 11/13/12 (0)

I don't think so - Presto 22:19:39 11/11/12 (35)

Determining system accuracy - Goober58 10:36:23 11/16/12 (0)

RE: I don't think so - Tony Lauck 07:20:20 11/12/12 (7)

RE: I don't think so - villastrangiato 08:05:11 11/12/12 (6)

LOL! - unclestu 14:33:19 11/12/12 (0)

You're preaching to the choir - Presto 12:25:36 11/12/12 (0)

RE: I don't think so - Tony Lauck 08:27:17 11/12/12 (3)

What if... - Presto 12:44:14 11/12/12 (0)

RE: I don't think so - villastrangiato 09:59:23 11/12/12 (1)

RE: I don't think so - Tony Lauck 11:24:20 11/12/12 (0)

Giant Conspiracy the likes of which the world has never seen - geoffkait 06:08:13 11/12/12 (24)

My stereo - Presto 12:34:16 11/12/12 (0)

This forum was dead... - kerr 09:50:30 11/12/12 (22)

Yup. nt - Elizabeth 12:46:52 11/13/12 (0)

Also as usual, it all boils down to some... - carcass93 13:51:08 11/12/12 (1)

Crown amps... - Presto 14:52:38 11/12/12 (0)

No resolution... - Presto 12:36:42 11/12/12 (16)

Ok, I'll go measure my stereo - kerr 16:13:07 11/12/12 (9)

In Pat D's terminology, your amp is big enough - so, you're good. - carcass93 19:21:29 11/12/12 (8)

You need help - kerr 05:22:42 11/13/12 (7)

I'm getting it. - carcass93 12:17:44 11/13/12 (0)

RE: You need help - villastrangiato 05:52:41 11/13/12 (5)

RE: You need help - kerr 06:52:31 11/13/12 (4)

RE: You need help - villastrangiato 06:59:11 11/13/12 (3)

RE: You need help - kerr 09:28:49 11/13/12 (2)

All my Crown amp did was - E-Stat 14:59:58 11/13/12 (1)

RE: All my Crown amp did was - kerr 04:43:50 11/14/12 (0)

RE: No resolution... - Tony Lauck 14:26:25 11/12/12 (5)

RE: No resolution... - Tony Lauck 05:41:20 11/13/12 (0)

Well, bits have been known to misbehave... - Presto 15:07:47 11/12/12 (2)

RE: Well, bits have been known to misbehave... - Tony Lauck 05:51:36 11/13/12 (1)

After each time I muck with EAC settings... - Presto 08:59:56 11/13/12 (0)

RE: No resolution... - geoffkait 14:32:08 11/12/12 (0)

RE: "....with no resolution whatsoever." - geoffkait 11:20:19 11/12/12 (1)

RE: "....with no resolution whatsoever." - kerr 16:15:50 11/12/12 (0)

RE: I don't think so - villastrangiato 05:43:36 11/12/12 (0)

Nice post! (nt) - Goober58 15:34:43 11/11/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 11:05:35 11/09/12 (30)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Goober58 12:19:29 11/10/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - geoffkait 04:59:17 11/10/12 (5)

LOL! - Goober58 15:56:13 11/10/12 (4)

Unfortunately... - geoffkait 16:23:00 11/10/12 (3)

RE: Unfortunately... - Presto 15:17:34 11/12/12 (1)

LOL! - kerr 16:32:04 11/12/12 (0)

RE: Unfortunately... - Goober58 16:59:40 11/10/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Tony Lauck 19:18:31 11/09/12 (22)

I believe - unclestu 14:17:44 11/12/12 (12)

RE: I believe - Tony Lauck 06:07:19 11/13/12 (9)

RE: I believe - villastrangiato 06:49:25 11/13/12 (8)

BTW - E-Stat 06:03:12 11/16/12 (2)

Brings up an interesting point - unclestu 14:00:08 11/16/12 (1)

I first learned of the Haas Effect - E-Stat 14:10:45 11/16/12 (0)

RE: I believe - Tony Lauck 07:13:21 11/13/12 (4)

RE: I believe - villastrangiato 07:25:52 11/13/12 (3)

RE: I believe - Tony Lauck 07:51:10 11/13/12 (2)

Ever notice - unclestu 14:44:02 11/13/12 (1)

RE: Ever notice - Tony Lauck 15:01:28 11/13/12 (0)

RE: I believe - villastrangiato 15:09:26 11/12/12 (1)

LOL! - unclestu 16:22:58 11/12/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Goober58 15:36:41 11/10/12 (2)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 15:55:13 11/10/12 (1)

WHAT THE????? - Goober58 15:58:56 11/10/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - E-Stat 06:39:32 11/10/12 (3)

Dogma - Tony Lauck 07:18:15 11/10/12 (2)

RE: Dogma - E-Stat 07:31:39 11/10/12 (1)

RE: Dogma - unclestu 14:28:57 11/10/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 21:08:24 11/09/12 (1)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Tony Lauck 06:57:43 11/10/12 (0)

If you wouldn't mind - E-Stat 14:26:20 11/07/12 (2)

RE: If you wouldn't mind - unclestu 12:18:24 11/09/12 (1)

:) -nt - E-Stat 12:48:41 11/09/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Goober58 20:15:48 11/04/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - rick_m 21:05:46 11/03/12 (0)

You are logically challenged. - Tony Lauck 09:34:47 11/03/12 (54)

RE: You forgot - BigguyinATL 19:21:16 02/16/13 (0)

Please Tony.... - Goober58 08:44:19 11/06/12 (48)

RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 09:06:34 11/06/12 (47)

RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 09:32:08 11/06/12 (46)

Sorry to break in, but - geoffkait 11:08:54 11/06/12 (24)

I think so but what's that got to do with this discussion? - Goober58 13:52:00 11/06/12 (23)

It's got everything to do with it. - geoffkait 14:52:41 11/06/12 (22)

That's not how I read it and you aren't making much of a case for you own claim... - Goober58 15:25:19 11/06/12 (21)

RE: "PERIOD!" - More like SEMICOLON - geoffkait 18:35:16 11/06/12 (20)

I believed I heard a difference when I used my magic chip - Goober58 21:33:21 11/06/12 (19)

RE: "Unfortunately the disks I selected as being improved were not the ones processed." - geoffkait 00:47:06 11/07/12 (18)

Oh? - Goober58 10:37:20 11/07/12 (17)

Hmmmm - geoffkait 11:10:14 11/07/12 (16)

Yep - Goober58 11:51:26 11/07/12 (15)

Outlier - geoffkait 12:47:56 11/07/12 (14)

RE: Outlier - Goober58 14:28:15 11/07/12 (13)

RE: Outlier - geoffkait 15:53:21 11/07/12 (12)

RE: Outlier - Goober58 17:00:07 11/07/12 (11)

RE: "...in each set of three" - geoffkait 05:55:24 11/08/12 (10)

RE: "...in each set of three" - Goober58 06:42:12 11/08/12 (9)

RE: 9 different CDs - geoffkait 08:05:44 11/08/12 (8)

That didn't matter to me - Goober58 09:57:02 11/08/12 (5)

Good enough won't cut it. - Tony Lauck 11:30:04 11/08/12 (1)

Sorry Tony but good enough does cut it - Goober58 13:17:23 11/08/12 (0)

These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 10:16:16 11/08/12 (2)

RE: These things happen (for a reason) - Goober58 13:05:51 11/08/12 (1)

RE: These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 16:26:41 11/08/12 (0)

Loving thoughts - Tony Lauck 09:04:26 11/08/12 (1)

RE: Loving thoughts - geoffkait 09:33:46 11/08/12 (0)

RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 09:41:34 11/06/12 (20)

RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 15:59:52 11/06/12 (19)

RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 16:44:15 11/06/12 (18)

RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 10:50:38 11/07/12 (17)

RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 11:07:24 11/07/12 (16)

RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 12:10:24 11/07/12 (15)

Yet... - E-Stat 14:32:27 11/07/12 (13)

RE: Yet... - Goober58 06:51:49 11/08/12 (10)

RE: Yet... - E-Stat 07:02:48 11/08/12 (9)

RE: Yet... - Goober58 10:08:50 11/08/12 (8)

RE: Yet... - E-Stat 10:21:38 11/08/12 (7)

How should I know? - Goober58 15:07:42 11/08/12 (6)

RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 15:38:09 11/08/12 (5)

RE: How should I know? - Goober58 16:00:41 11/08/12 (4)

RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 16:18:16 11/08/12 (3)

RE: How should I know? - Goober58 17:03:59 11/08/12 (2)

RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 17:15:48 11/08/12 (1)

What a tired strawman - Goober58 18:13:18 11/08/12 (0)

But... - kerr 17:31:19 11/07/12 (1)

Some - E-Stat 06:57:03 11/09/12 (0)

RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 12:17:44 11/07/12 (0)

RE: You are logically challenged. - jrlaudio 10:06:01 11/03/12 (3)

You are philosophically challenged as well - Tony Lauck 10:26:31 11/03/12 (2)

RE: You are philosophically challenged as well - jrlaudio 11:28:20 11/03/12 (1)

RE: You are philosophically challenged as well - Tony Lauck 12:02:06 11/03/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - geoffkait 06:41:15 11/03/12 (3)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - jrlaudio 11:13:19 11/03/12 (2)

Hmmm............. - unclestu 14:37:49 11/03/12 (0)

RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - geoffkait 12:11:38 11/03/12 (0)

This are honest questions............... - unclestu 02:59:39 11/03/12 (15)

RE: This are honest questions............... - jrlaudio 03:39:19 11/03/12 (14)

What we can hear - Jon Risch 21:33:22 11/13/12 (5)

RE: What we can hear - Tony Lauck 08:56:07 11/19/12 (0)

Good points! -nt - rick_m 19:59:23 11/16/12 (0)

Bravo! (nt) - unclestu 14:19:24 11/14/12 (0)

RE: What we can hear - villastrangiato 06:10:07 11/14/12 (1)

RE: What we can hear - Jon Risch 14:31:49 11/16/12 (0)

I posted............. - unclestu 04:09:15 11/03/12 (7)

RE: I posted............. - jrlaudio 06:57:05 11/03/12 (6)

RE: I posted............. - Tony Lauck 19:22:24 11/07/12 (0)

RE: I posted............. - 1audiohack 07:08:25 11/07/12 (0)

I believe - unclestu 16:00:04 11/03/12 (0)

RE: I posted............. - geoffkait 08:03:54 11/03/12 (2)

RE: I posted............. - jrlaudio 09:17:23 11/03/12 (1)

Huh? - Tony Lauck 09:47:27 11/03/12 (0)

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RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Tweekeng 15:27:35 11/22/12 (0)

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