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In Reply to: That's number 1, and you missed the point entirely. posted by Commuteman on August 14, 2003 at 14:12:48:
"There's no need to accuse me of a blnd faith in the audibility of cable differences. I'm quite willing to accept that some of the reported differences are imagined. But at least I have an open mind."RG:
Please don't take any of this too seriously or personally --
they are only wires ... but ... if you really had an open mind,
you would be willing to accept the possibility that NO audiophiles are able to hear wire differences while listening to music under blind conditions ...not just "some".That possibility remains viable because after over 20 years of
volume-matched blind wire comparisons, no one in the world has yet proven to witnesses his ability to differentiate among wires.I have asked online Golden Ears to provide one name since 1998
but have had only three claims of double-blind success at home
(never any witness to verify of course) and few test methodology details are provided. I have even offered $1000 to witness a person
who has heard wire differences under blind conditions and would be willing to repeat his success in front of me so I could write an audio club article about.I have participated in one double-blind speaker cable comparison and performed three single-blind interconnect comparisons to compare borrowed interconnects with my own.
There may actually be no audible difference (#1) but during sighted auditions some audiophiles so strongly believe they hear differences ... that minutes later after the audition methodology
is converted to double-blind (and they fail to differentiate between A and B) these Golden Ears get so frustrated that they declare the ABX test was no good -- there was too much pressure on them to choose A or B -- or whatever excuse comes to mind to dismiss their "failure".The possibility that sound quality diferences among wires intended for audio use are measurable with test instruments but not audible
to people is never accepted ... even as a remote possibility.
And that's where you stand.
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Follow Ups
- Do you really have an open mind about wires -- maybe not? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:24:33 08/15/03 (11)
- Where's Enid Lumley and J. Peter Moncrieff .... - Sean 23:27:09 08/19/03 (0)
- Is this a record for the longest thread on Prop Head Plaza without mindless name calling? - Commuteman 16:53:54 08/15/03 (4)
- Are we breaking some rule on this forum? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:08:32 08/18/03 (0)
- Well, it could just be a coincidence.... - Charles Hansen 21:01:01 08/16/03 (0)
- Re: Is this a record for the longest thread on Prop Head Plaza without mindless name calling? - Ted Smith 20:10:49 08/15/03 (1)
- You're just waiting patiently for the mindless name calling to begin - Richard BassNut Greene 08:12:27 08/18/03 (0)
- Hell, I don't even trust my own impressions - Commuteman 16:50:26 08/15/03 (4)
- Actually the DBT's don't really "work" - Richard BassNut Greene 19:45:08 08/15/03 (3)
- Now THAT I will buy.... - Commuteman 19:20:52 08/16/03 (2)
- The best blind test of all -- of the Bedini CD Clarifier - Richard BassNut Greene 08:38:29 08/18/03 (1)
- Maybe the system sounded better just holding the Bedini and the CD at the same time? ;-) - Commuteman 12:38:57 08/18/03 (0)
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