In Reply to: Golden Ears and Audible Differences: A New Test posted by Bayside Bomber on August 1, 2003 at 06:38:06:
I do enjoy this topic, because it brings out some raw emotion. To answer some of your questions, my test was very simple, and you will not find much to pick out. The one possible weakness with the study is that I did not account for possible mismatched sound levels. I know as well as the next guy how sound levels affect the apparent quality of the sound. Otherwise, both speaker cables were burned in for hundreds of hours and my wife had no obvious way to know which cable was which. My gut feel is that the kinds of subtle cues that the naysayers are concerned about were probably nonexistent. I don't plan to videotape my next experiment, so there is no way I can convince you. Indeed, if I were sure that the volumes were identical and yet received the same critiques, I would wonder if the naysayers were simply being obstinate.One last point -- I have merely demonstrated (subject to the above caveat) that my wife can reliably discriminate between two speaker cables in a way that would not be expected due to random chance. This says nothing about the 99.99% of the population who do not possess my wife's musical judgment (or any of her other wonderful gifts, for that matter!)
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- Reading between the lines - Bayside Bomber 13:00:06 08/01/03 (54)
- Link to real double-blind test documention - Richard BassNut Greene 09:48:52 08/05/03 (37)
- I know this is way after the fact... - Commuteman 15:32:53 08/12/03 (16)
- One thing you didn't know ... - Richard BassNut Greene 06:04:48 08/13/03 (15)
- I understand all that - Commuteman 09:53:58 08/13/03 (14)
- Number 3 result from blind audition that you forgot to list - Richard BassNut Greene 11:52:01 08/14/03 (13)
- That's number 1, and you missed the point entirely. - Commuteman 14:12:48 08/14/03 (12)
- Do you really have an open mind about wires -- maybe not? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:24:33 08/15/03 (11)
- Where's Enid Lumley and J. Peter Moncrieff .... - Sean 23:27:09 08/19/03 (0)
- Is this a record for the longest thread on Prop Head Plaza without mindless name calling? - Commuteman 16:53:54 08/15/03 (4)
- Are we breaking some rule on this forum? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:08:32 08/18/03 (0)
- Well, it could just be a coincidence.... - Charles Hansen 21:01:01 08/16/03 (0)
- Re: Is this a record for the longest thread on Prop Head Plaza without mindless name calling? - Ted Smith 20:10:49 08/15/03 (1)
- You're just waiting patiently for the mindless name calling to begin - Richard BassNut Greene 08:12:27 08/18/03 (0)
- Hell, I don't even trust my own impressions - Commuteman 16:50:26 08/15/03 (4)
- Actually the DBT's don't really "work" - Richard BassNut Greene 19:45:08 08/15/03 (3)
- Now THAT I will buy.... - Commuteman 19:20:52 08/16/03 (2)
- The best blind test of all -- of the Bedini CD Clarifier - Richard BassNut Greene 08:38:29 08/18/03 (1)
- Maybe the system sounded better just holding the Bedini and the CD at the same time? ;-) - Commuteman 12:38:57 08/18/03 (0)
- Please continue - E-Stat 10:21:26 08/10/03 (0)
- Re: Link to real double-blind test documention - kurt s 15:34:58 08/05/03 (15)
- The link was intended to inform about methodology -- not statistics - Richard BassNut Greene 06:04:22 08/06/03 (14)
- Same old, same old - Jon Risch 07:47:44 08/09/03 (8)
- Certainly your complaints apply to sighted auditions ... if they get "null" results - Richard BassNut Greene 10:32:00 08/11/03 (7)
- RG, you've hit the real issue... - Commuteman 10:14:28 08/13/03 (6)
- Double-blind test of Mini-disc and CD - Richard BassNut Greene 09:19:01 08/18/03 (5)
- Wait a minute! This means.. - Commuteman 14:49:09 08/18/03 (4)
- Can't get from here ... to there - Richard BassNut Greene 13:11:27 08/19/03 (3)
- You can't have it both ways - Commuteman 13:38:44 08/20/03 (2)
- Comparing your system today with its sound quality five years ago -- you must have a great memory! - Richard BassNut Greene 09:24:18 08/22/03 (1)
- I think we just reached the point of absurdity... - Commuteman 09:26:12 08/25/03 (0)
- Re: The link was intended to inform about methodology -- not statistics - Rod M 19:09:46 08/06/03 (1)
- Read your post ... before you press "Submit Follow Up"? - Richard BassNut Greene 04:48:50 08/07/03 (0)
- Re: The link was intended to inform about methodology -- not statistics - kurt s 08:19:27 08/06/03 (2)
- Re: The link was intended to inform about methodology -- not statistics - Commuteman 10:10:59 08/06/03 (1)
- Yes. That is a good example. nt - kurt s 10:37:10 08/06/03 (0)
- Re: Link to real double-blind test documention - Steve Eddy 10:37:58 08/05/03 (1)
- Of course there's an agenda -- it's advertising copy - Richard BassNut Greene 06:22:36 08/06/03 (0)
- I completely disagree with everything Rod M. says in response to this post - Richard BassNut Greene 10:22:56 08/05/03 (0)
- Re: Reading between the lines - jensw 16:00:29 08/01/03 (0)
- Re: Reading between the lines - Steve Eddy 13:26:57 08/01/03 (0)
- Ah, but you haven't "proven" them wrong... - Commuteman 13:06:18 08/01/03 (0)
- "I would wonder if the naysayers were simply being obstinate." - clarkjohnsen 13:06:15 08/01/03 (12)
- Re: "I would wonder if the naysayers were simply being obstinate." - Dan Banquer 13:34:45 08/01/03 (11)
- Re: "I would wonder if the naysayers were simply being obstinate." - Steve Eddy 14:35:13 08/01/03 (10)
- "Ah, but how do you KNOW it doesn't help, work or whatever?" - clarkjohnsen 06:52:37 08/02/03 (2)
- Re: "Ah, but how do you KNOW it doesn't help, work or whatever?" - Dan Banquer 09:28:33 08/04/03 (0)
- Re: Exactly. [nt] - alan m. kafton 16:30:47 08/03/03 (0)
- Re: "I would wonder if the naysayers were simply being obstinate." - Dan Banquer 15:02:16 08/01/03 (6)
- Re: But, how recently? - alan m. kafton 16:29:59 08/03/03 (5)
- Re: But, how recently? - Dan Banquer 09:24:50 08/04/03 (4)
- Re: Oh, Dan. Tsk, tsk...... - alan m. kafton 13:41:47 08/04/03 (3)
- Re: Oh, Dan. Tsk, tsk...... - Dan Banquer 12:49:21 08/05/03 (0)
- Re: Oh, Dan. Tsk, tsk...... - Steve Eddy 14:08:06 08/04/03 (1)
- Re: Steve....you *are* beating a dead horse. Move on, please. [nt] - alan m. kafton 15:02:48 08/04/03 (0)