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In Reply to: RE: Please Tony.... posted by Tony Lauck on November 6, 2012 at 09:41:34:
What did I miss? Seems to me they were able to explain precisely and via measurements why their devices would sound different than others.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - jrlaudio 00:46:42 11/03/12 (199)
- re: initial post - Bill Way 19:27:09 12/12/12 (1)
- re: "you can identify a Stradavarius in an instant by ear" - geoffkait 16:26:45 12/14/12 (0)
- Follow-up by the OP - jrlaudio 21:31:45 11/24/12 (12)
- electrostatic charge decay can take a LONG time - morricab 02:43:55 11/28/12 (1)
- Short answer - unclestu 23:00:24 12/16/12 (0)
- Oops - Jon Risch 19:00:35 11/25/12 (9)
- RE: Oops - Mungo Jerry 07:53:22 11/26/12 (8)
- RE: Oops - Jon Risch 19:34:53 11/27/12 (6)
- RE: Oops - Mungo Jerry 06:20:33 11/28/12 (5)
- RE: Oops - rick_m 08:23:07 11/28/12 (3)
- RE: Oops - Goober58 07:11:17 12/05/12 (1)
- RE: Oops - rick_m 08:30:21 12/06/12 (0)
- RE: Oops - finski 16:23:18 11/28/12 (0)
- Argumentum Ad Verecundium - geoffkait 08:13:33 11/28/12 (0)
- "threatened by someone in the know" - this is a joke, right? - carcass93 12:03:00 11/27/12 (0)
- If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Todd Krieger 15:51:41 11/19/12 (11)
- RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - jrlaudio 18:29:24 11/24/12 (7)
- Some Minor quibbles - unclestu 01:35:07 12/12/12 (1)
- RE: Some Minor quibbles - Tony Lauck 14:20:46 12/12/12 (0)
- Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - Goober58 18:40:42 11/24/12 (4)
- RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - jrlaudio 19:27:06 11/24/12 (3)
- RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - Goober58 21:25:16 11/24/12 (2)
- RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - jrlaudio 22:32:12 11/24/12 (1)
- RE: Are we discussing test equipment or audio systems? - Goober58 09:58:05 11/25/12 (0)
- RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Goober58 16:29:45 11/23/12 (0)
- RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Tweekeng 15:27:35 11/22/12 (0)
- RE: If What You Claim Is True, Machines Should Be Able to Discern Jascha Heifetz from Itzhak Perlman......... (LONG) - Mungo Jerry 06:49:39 11/20/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - pictureguy 23:37:42 11/18/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 06:02:27 11/14/12 (3)
- The French have an expression - geoffkait 06:37:34 11/14/12 (2)
- RE: The French have an expression - villastrangiato 07:01:21 11/14/12 (1)
- RE: The French have an expression - finski 07:19:15 11/14/12 (0)
- Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - Elizabeth 09:52:49 11/13/12 (9)
- RE: Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - villastrangiato 18:30:54 11/13/12 (8)
- RE: Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - finski 18:37:31 11/13/12 (7)
- RE: Nice post. Thank you for your efforts. Glad to read someone with an objective view here. - villastrangiato 18:45:48 11/13/12 (6)
- Your annoying, and do not 'get it'. So your posts ARE going to be scrutinized - Elizabeth 14:59:13 11/14/12 (5)
- RE: Your annoying, and do not 'get it'. So your posts ARE going to be scrutinized - villastrangiato 16:22:32 11/14/12 (4)
- Yeah, I feel better.. (just like after taking a big dump) hope you feel better too. nt - Elizabeth 16:55:32 11/14/12 (3)
- RE: Yeah, I feel better.. (just like after taking a big dump) hope you feel better too. nt - finski 19:21:18 11/14/12 (2)
- yes yes.. I am shrivelled up old hag, with my broken shopping cart, carting around my 19 cats... - Elizabeth 19:40:39 11/14/12 (1)
- Killer soundstage, though... - kerr 07:18:56 11/15/12 (0)
- Define accuracy - Presto 20:23:00 11/10/12 (45)
- RE: Define accuracy - jrlaudio 13:11:29 11/24/12 (1)
- RE: Define accuracy - Presto 19:29:36 12/03/12 (0)
- RE: Define accuracy - villastrangiato 16:56:15 11/11/12 (41)
- That was not the point of the original post... - Goober58 17:01:45 11/13/12 (3)
- RE: That was not the point of the original post... - Presto 09:23:40 11/22/12 (2)
- RE: That was not the point of the original post... - geoffkait 10:40:20 11/22/12 (1)
- It didn't have to be that way - Goober58 16:44:47 11/23/12 (0)
- Yeah, sad to say i have to agree with you. on off topic, AND the problem of making stuff up to sell audio. nt - Elizabeth 09:59:31 11/13/12 (0)
- I don't think so - Presto 22:19:39 11/11/12 (35)
- Determining system accuracy - Goober58 10:36:23 11/16/12 (0)
- RE: I don't think so - Tony Lauck 07:20:20 11/12/12 (7)
- RE: I don't think so - villastrangiato 08:05:11 11/12/12 (6)
- LOL! - unclestu 14:33:19 11/12/12 (0)
- You're preaching to the choir - Presto 12:25:36 11/12/12 (0)
- RE: I don't think so - Tony Lauck 08:27:17 11/12/12 (3)
- What if... - Presto 12:44:14 11/12/12 (0)
- RE: I don't think so - villastrangiato 09:59:23 11/12/12 (1)
- RE: I don't think so - Tony Lauck 11:24:20 11/12/12 (0)
- Giant Conspiracy the likes of which the world has never seen - geoffkait 06:08:13 11/12/12 (24)
- My stereo - Presto 12:34:16 11/12/12 (0)
- This forum was dead... - kerr 09:50:30 11/12/12 (22)
- Yup. nt - Elizabeth 12:46:52 11/13/12 (0)
- Also as usual, it all boils down to some... - carcass93 13:51:08 11/12/12 (1)
- Crown amps... - Presto 14:52:38 11/12/12 (0)
- No resolution... - Presto 12:36:42 11/12/12 (16)
- Ok, I'll go measure my stereo - kerr 16:13:07 11/12/12 (9)
- In Pat D's terminology, your amp is big enough - so, you're good. - carcass93 19:21:29 11/12/12 (8)
- You need help - kerr 05:22:42 11/13/12 (7)
- I'm getting it. - carcass93 12:17:44 11/13/12 (0)
- RE: You need help - villastrangiato 05:52:41 11/13/12 (5)
- RE: You need help - kerr 06:52:31 11/13/12 (4)
- RE: You need help - villastrangiato 06:59:11 11/13/12 (3)
- RE: You need help - kerr 09:28:49 11/13/12 (2)
- All my Crown amp did was - E-Stat 14:59:58 11/13/12 (1)
- RE: All my Crown amp did was - kerr 04:43:50 11/14/12 (0)
- RE: No resolution... - Tony Lauck 14:26:25 11/12/12 (5)
- RE: No resolution... - Tony Lauck 05:41:20 11/13/12 (0)
- Well, bits have been known to misbehave... - Presto 15:07:47 11/12/12 (2)
- RE: Well, bits have been known to misbehave... - Tony Lauck 05:51:36 11/13/12 (1)
- After each time I muck with EAC settings... - Presto 08:59:56 11/13/12 (0)
- RE: No resolution... - geoffkait 14:32:08 11/12/12 (0)
- RE: "....with no resolution whatsoever." - geoffkait 11:20:19 11/12/12 (1)
- RE: "....with no resolution whatsoever." - kerr 16:15:50 11/12/12 (0)
- RE: I don't think so - villastrangiato 05:43:36 11/12/12 (0)
- Nice post! (nt) - Goober58 15:34:43 11/11/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 11:05:35 11/09/12 (30)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Goober58 12:19:29 11/10/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - geoffkait 04:59:17 11/10/12 (5)
- LOL! - Goober58 15:56:13 11/10/12 (4)
- Unfortunately... - geoffkait 16:23:00 11/10/12 (3)
- RE: Unfortunately... - Presto 15:17:34 11/12/12 (1)
- LOL! - kerr 16:32:04 11/12/12 (0)
- RE: Unfortunately... - Goober58 16:59:40 11/10/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Tony Lauck 19:18:31 11/09/12 (22)
- I believe - unclestu 14:17:44 11/12/12 (12)
- RE: I believe - Tony Lauck 06:07:19 11/13/12 (9)
- RE: I believe - villastrangiato 06:49:25 11/13/12 (8)
- BTW - E-Stat 06:03:12 11/16/12 (2)
- Brings up an interesting point - unclestu 14:00:08 11/16/12 (1)
- I first learned of the Haas Effect - E-Stat 14:10:45 11/16/12 (0)
- RE: I believe - Tony Lauck 07:13:21 11/13/12 (4)
- RE: I believe - villastrangiato 07:25:52 11/13/12 (3)
- RE: I believe - Tony Lauck 07:51:10 11/13/12 (2)
- Ever notice - unclestu 14:44:02 11/13/12 (1)
- RE: Ever notice - Tony Lauck 15:01:28 11/13/12 (0)
- RE: I believe - villastrangiato 15:09:26 11/12/12 (1)
- LOL! - unclestu 16:22:58 11/12/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Goober58 15:36:41 11/10/12 (2)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 15:55:13 11/10/12 (1)
- WHAT THE????? - Goober58 15:58:56 11/10/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - E-Stat 06:39:32 11/10/12 (3)
- Dogma - Tony Lauck 07:18:15 11/10/12 (2)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - villastrangiato 21:08:24 11/09/12 (1)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Tony Lauck 06:57:43 11/10/12 (0)
- If you wouldn't mind - E-Stat 14:26:20 11/07/12 (2)
- RE: If you wouldn't mind - unclestu 12:18:24 11/09/12 (1)
- :) -nt - E-Stat 12:48:41 11/09/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - Goober58 20:15:48 11/04/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - rick_m 21:05:46 11/03/12 (0)
- You are logically challenged. - Tony Lauck 09:34:47 11/03/12 (54)
- RE: You forgot - BigguyinATL 19:21:16 02/16/13 (0)
- Please Tony.... - Goober58 08:44:19 11/06/12 (48)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 09:06:34 11/06/12 (47)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 09:32:08 11/06/12 (46)
- Sorry to break in, but - geoffkait 11:08:54 11/06/12 (24)
- I think so but what's that got to do with this discussion? - Goober58 13:52:00 11/06/12 (23)
- It's got everything to do with it. - geoffkait 14:52:41 11/06/12 (22)
- That's not how I read it and you aren't making much of a case for you own claim... - Goober58 15:25:19 11/06/12 (21)
- RE: "PERIOD!" - More like SEMICOLON - geoffkait 18:35:16 11/06/12 (20)
- I believed I heard a difference when I used my magic chip - Goober58 21:33:21 11/06/12 (19)
- RE: "Unfortunately the disks I selected as being improved were not the ones processed." - geoffkait 00:47:06 11/07/12 (18)
- Oh? - Goober58 10:37:20 11/07/12 (17)
- Hmmmm - geoffkait 11:10:14 11/07/12 (16)
- Yep - Goober58 11:51:26 11/07/12 (15)
- Outlier - geoffkait 12:47:56 11/07/12 (14)
- RE: Outlier - Goober58 14:28:15 11/07/12 (13)
- RE: Outlier - geoffkait 15:53:21 11/07/12 (12)
- RE: Outlier - Goober58 17:00:07 11/07/12 (11)
- RE: "...in each set of three" - geoffkait 05:55:24 11/08/12 (10)
- RE: "...in each set of three" - Goober58 06:42:12 11/08/12 (9)
- RE: 9 different CDs - geoffkait 08:05:44 11/08/12 (8)
- That didn't matter to me - Goober58 09:57:02 11/08/12 (5)
- Good enough won't cut it. - Tony Lauck 11:30:04 11/08/12 (1)
- Sorry Tony but good enough does cut it - Goober58 13:17:23 11/08/12 (0)
- These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 10:16:16 11/08/12 (2)
- RE: These things happen (for a reason) - Goober58 13:05:51 11/08/12 (1)
- RE: These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 16:26:41 11/08/12 (0)
- Loving thoughts - Tony Lauck 09:04:26 11/08/12 (1)
- RE: Loving thoughts - geoffkait 09:33:46 11/08/12 (0)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 09:41:34 11/06/12 (20)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 15:59:52 11/06/12 (19)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 16:44:15 11/06/12 (18)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 10:50:38 11/07/12 (17)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 11:07:24 11/07/12 (16)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 12:10:24 11/07/12 (15)
- Yet... - E-Stat 14:32:27 11/07/12 (13)
- RE: Yet... - Goober58 06:51:49 11/08/12 (10)
- RE: Yet... - E-Stat 07:02:48 11/08/12 (9)
- RE: Yet... - Goober58 10:08:50 11/08/12 (8)
- RE: Yet... - E-Stat 10:21:38 11/08/12 (7)
- How should I know? - Goober58 15:07:42 11/08/12 (6)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 15:38:09 11/08/12 (5)
- RE: How should I know? - Goober58 16:00:41 11/08/12 (4)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 16:18:16 11/08/12 (3)
- RE: How should I know? - Goober58 17:03:59 11/08/12 (2)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 17:15:48 11/08/12 (1)
- What a tired strawman - Goober58 18:13:18 11/08/12 (0)
- But... - kerr 17:31:19 11/07/12 (1)
- Some - E-Stat 06:57:03 11/09/12 (0)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 12:17:44 11/07/12 (0)
- RE: You are logically challenged. - jrlaudio 10:06:01 11/03/12 (3)
- You are philosophically challenged as well - Tony Lauck 10:26:31 11/03/12 (2)
- RE: You are philosophically challenged as well - jrlaudio 11:28:20 11/03/12 (1)
- RE: You are philosophically challenged as well - Tony Lauck 12:02:06 11/03/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - geoffkait 06:41:15 11/03/12 (3)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - jrlaudio 11:13:19 11/03/12 (2)
- Hmmm............. - unclestu 14:37:49 11/03/12 (0)
- RE: Measurement and Perception and the Value of Each (Long Post) - geoffkait 12:11:38 11/03/12 (0)
- This are honest questions............... - unclestu 02:59:39 11/03/12 (15)
- RE: This are honest questions............... - jrlaudio 03:39:19 11/03/12 (14)
- What we can hear - Jon Risch 21:33:22 11/13/12 (5)
- RE: What we can hear - Tony Lauck 08:56:07 11/19/12 (0)
- Good points! -nt - rick_m 19:59:23 11/16/12 (0)
- Bravo! (nt) - unclestu 14:19:24 11/14/12 (0)
- RE: What we can hear - villastrangiato 06:10:07 11/14/12 (1)
- RE: What we can hear - Jon Risch 14:31:49 11/16/12 (0)
- I posted............. - unclestu 04:09:15 11/03/12 (7)
- RE: I posted............. - jrlaudio 06:57:05 11/03/12 (6)
- RE: I posted............. - Tony Lauck 19:22:24 11/07/12 (0)
- RE: I posted............. - 1audiohack 07:08:25 11/07/12 (0)
- I believe - unclestu 16:00:04 11/03/12 (0)
- RE: I posted............. - geoffkait 08:03:54 11/03/12 (2)
- RE: I posted............. - jrlaudio 09:17:23 11/03/12 (1)
- Huh? - Tony Lauck 09:47:27 11/03/12 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 15:59:52 11/06/12 (19)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 16:44:15 11/06/12 (18)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 10:50:38 11/07/12 (17)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 11:07:24 11/07/12 (16)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 12:10:24 11/07/12 (15)
- Yet... - E-Stat 14:32:27 11/07/12 (13)
- RE: Yet... - Goober58 06:51:49 11/08/12 (10)
- RE: Yet... - E-Stat 07:02:48 11/08/12 (9)
- RE: Yet... - Goober58 10:08:50 11/08/12 (8)
- RE: Yet... - E-Stat 10:21:38 11/08/12 (7)
- How should I know? - Goober58 15:07:42 11/08/12 (6)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 15:38:09 11/08/12 (5)
- RE: How should I know? - Goober58 16:00:41 11/08/12 (4)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 16:18:16 11/08/12 (3)
- RE: How should I know? - Goober58 17:03:59 11/08/12 (2)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 17:15:48 11/08/12 (1)
- What a tired strawman - Goober58 18:13:18 11/08/12 (0)
- But... - kerr 17:31:19 11/07/12 (1)
- Some - E-Stat 06:57:03 11/09/12 (0)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 12:17:44 11/07/12 (0)