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In Reply to: I decline to take a third dip in your pool of confusion. nt posted by Tony Lauck on July 1, 2010 at 12:01:16:
As is Robert Young. Many times I have pointed out that there are universal and particular propositions. In this case, Sean Olive was referring to the sense of envelopment and spaciousness in this particular system which he prefers to what is found in stereo (in which the meaning is general). Now, I have no idea why you and Robert Young would confuse universal and particular as you both seem intelligent enough to know the difference--possibly to get at me, possibly laziness, possibly some other reason. C93 and E-stat have their own agendas.
But check out this from post no. 75 in the HA thread, linked below, where Sean Olive said:
"I agree that the discussion on 2 channel versus multichannel is off topic and I am happy to abandon it.
"I only brought it up because we seem to have people in this forum willing to sit in a tiny sweet spot while listening to overpriced, directional speakers with terrible off-axis response that we are told are both highly room-dependent and loudspeaker/listener position dependent -- all for the purpose of what? To listen to stereo, which Bell Lab scientists said back in the early 1930s was completely inadequate to convey the realism of a live music performance to an audience.
"For me, that is a terribly misguided use of effort and money because there too many inherent compromises in sound quality, given what is possible today with music recording and reproduction science and technology. We can do so much better, and we should.
"As an industry we have failed to learn and acknowledge the Bell Lab science that is almost 80 years old! And we are now repeating ourselves by ignoring the loudspeaker science that has been known since the mid-1980s from Floyd Tooles' work at the National Research Council."
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Follow Ups
- You're the one confused. - Pat D 01:53:07 07/02/10 (13)
- Read Olive's quote again Pat: the system is not a specific one. - robert young 05:39:22 07/02/10 (12)
- Changes nothing relevant. - Pat D 08:39:14 07/02/10 (8)
- But I didn't atack Sean, I attacked your interpretation of what he wrote. - robert young 09:29:27 07/02/10 (7)
- I never said *you* did. - Pat D 10:32:02 07/02/10 (6)
- RE: I never said *you* did. - robert young 20:05:03 07/02/10 (5)
- What I did in concurring with C93's observation - E-Stat 07:49:54 07/03/10 (4)
- It's is - if he's your idol, that you worship, and are never allowed to question. N/T - carcass93 08:28:06 07/03/10 (3)
- Naw, you're my idol (nt) - Pat D 16:10:01 07/03/10 (2)
- Is that the "whether you mean it or not" part of Flanders & Swan? :) - kerr 05:10:07 07/04/10 (1)
- RE: Is that the "whether you mean it or not" part of Flanders & Swan? :) - Pat D 17:34:34 07/04/10 (0)
- RE: Read Olive's quote again Pat: the system is not a specific one. - Tony Lauck 07:08:17 07/02/10 (2)
- RE: HA - rick_m 08:46:17 07/04/10 (0)
- "why HA continues to exist" - it's a social club, that just happens... - carcass93 18:34:47 07/02/10 (0)
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