In Reply to: No reason to care unless you buy things posted by tomservo on June 4, 2010 at 07:12:10:
The only thing I want to add is that equipment susceptable to external influences, ie. the physical characteristics and attributes of cables/wires, is often deemed by many audiophiles as being more revealling or of having higher resolution. I'm sure that what some would consider marginal design constructs are quite intentional on the part of many manufacturers.
Don't get me wrong, I'm most certainly a relativist, and think such design choices are perfectly fair and reasonable especially given the diversity of audiophile purpose, individual preference and the fuzzy nature of a stereo recording itself.
A thing that really bothers me about the marketing vehicles is how they attempt to walk this line between objective credibility and growing the industry. IMO it's this kind of dumbing down of audiophiles that gives rise to this kind of objectivist v. subjective debate which really makes audiophiles in general look quite foolish and ignorant as well.
At a minimum a subjectivist wishing any credibility would understand the importance of blind testing and level matching. Those not in search of credibility should simply avoid the topic enjoy their pursuit on their own terms otherwise a "Sad Sack Marketing Sap is Me" tee-shirt is appropriate.
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- nice response - Don Till 09:55:03 06/05/10 (65)
- RE: nice response - Tony Lauck 11:49:47 06/05/10 (64)
- RE: nice response - Pat D 15:54:39 06/05/10 (36)
- RE: nice response - Tony Lauck 18:45:35 06/05/10 (35)
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- Unfortunately.... - Don Till 21:01:44 06/08/10 (20)
- clueless - Tony Lauck 07:11:23 06/09/10 (19)
- So? - Don Till 08:12:27 06/09/10 (18)
- RE: So? - Tony Lauck 08:42:47 06/09/10 (17)
- Not really Tony... - Don Till 08:49:29 06/09/10 (16)
- Hysterical!! - robert young 10:25:58 06/09/10 (0)
- I already agreed with you.... - Tony Lauck 09:03:52 06/09/10 (14)
- I know you said that you agree with me but I don't agree with you. - Don Till 12:57:23 06/09/10 (13)
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- Like that TT that picks up voices spoken in the listening room your amp is broken.... - Don Till 08:49:24 06/17/10 (7)
- It seems you simply can't comprehend what you read. - robert young 12:02:00 06/17/10 (6)
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- No it's a programming error - Don Till 19:23:11 06/17/10 (3)
- That analogy is so tortured.... - robert young 13:26:26 06/18/10 (2)
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- Sure..... - Don Till 21:12:55 06/11/10 (3)
- RE: Sure..... - Tony Lauck 06:05:40 06/12/10 (2)
- No Tony - Don Till 16:51:53 06/16/10 (1)
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- Good point - E-Stat 14:24:00 06/08/10 (0)
- Well said! - E-Stat 12:09:48 06/05/10 (26)
- Maybe you can clarify what's so well about it? - Don Till 13:44:43 06/05/10 (25)
- My suggestion to you - E-Stat 14:54:52 06/05/10 (24)
- Come now E-Stat - Don Till 17:04:19 06/05/10 (21)
- At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - E-Stat 19:39:40 06/05/10 (20)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - Don Till 07:29:42 06/06/10 (19)
- The *someone* - E-Stat 08:55:55 06/06/10 (18)
- Technical dimension? - Don Till 13:22:09 06/08/10 (10)
- Do you need assistance understanding the term "recording engineer"? -nt - E-Stat 13:40:20 06/08/10 (9)
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- Regardless of your insults - E-Stat 05:57:56 06/09/10 (7)
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- What is their take? - E-Stat 08:24:50 06/09/10 (5)
- Ok then why the applaud for the original comment? - Don Till 08:47:10 06/09/10 (4)
- Evidently - E-Stat 09:03:57 06/09/10 (3)
- You need to tie these spectra to resolution* independent of noise in order for your comment to be relative - Don Till 12:34:24 06/09/10 (2)
- Yes, kids it's another episode of... - E-Stat 13:37:08 06/09/10 (1)
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- RE: My suggestion to you - Pat D 16:01:10 06/05/10 (1)
- May you enjoy you lack of awareness -nt - E-Stat 19:38:10 06/05/10 (0)