In Reply to: Speaker Cable Differences Measured posted by Jon Risch on May 26, 2010 at 17:38:12:
Quote from part 6: "Nevertheless, the evidence is now overwhelming that cables can give rise to sonic differences."
I don't think that any objectivist will say that differences cannot be MEASURED, and this is what has been done by the authors of that book (or rather, the authors of the corresponding IOA paper), but only that, nothing more. To say that cables CAN give rise to sonic differences is reasonable and justified in view of the measured differences, but only that, nothing more.
I'm not aware of any bias-controlled ( http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=14393) listening test that shows that different cables indeed do sound different. Newell and Holland don't indicate any such evidence either.
Klaus
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- RE: will the objectionists finally allow that there is true evidence of cable differences - KlausR. 23:12:54 05/26/10 (66)
- RE: Take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth! lol - benie 19:05:47 05/29/10 (1)
- You have to speak up - they have their ears plugged with bananas. N/T - carcass93 09:01:00 06/01/10 (0)
- "listening test that shows..." - it shows exactly NOTHING, unless you're participant. - carcass93 10:46:19 05/28/10 (16)
- RE: I don't give a damn - KlausR. 04:43:53 05/29/10 (15)
- When dealing with... - carcass93 08:47:55 06/01/10 (0)
- RE: I don't give a damn - kerr 06:32:00 05/29/10 (13)
- How come they all make the same, tired as it is irrelevant, medical DBT argument? - carcass93 09:18:17 06/01/10 (1)
- RE: How come they all make the same, tired as it is irrelevant, medical DBT argument? - Tony Lauck 07:22:57 06/03/10 (0)
- RE: Side effects - KlausR. 07:49:34 05/29/10 (10)
- RE: Side effects - kerr 08:43:02 05/29/10 (9)
- RE: Any test results that show... - KlausR. 10:53:57 05/29/10 (1)
- RE: Any test results that show... - kerr 06:21:53 05/30/10 (0)
- Scientific Truth - Jon Risch 10:06:22 05/29/10 (6)
- From Earl Geddes distortion papers - morricab 07:15:36 06/03/10 (4)
- RE: From Earl Geddes distortion papers - andy_c 14:53:43 06/03/10 (3)
- RE: From Earl Geddes distortion papers - morricab 02:01:23 06/04/10 (2)
- RE: From Earl Geddes distortion papers - andy_c 08:43:55 06/04/10 (0)
- RE: From Earl Geddes distortion papers - Tony Lauck 08:08:05 06/04/10 (0)
- RE: Scientific Truth - rick_m 11:45:33 05/29/10 (0)
- RE: "I'm not aware" - geoffkait 05:17:05 05/27/10 (46)
- RE: The oldest Strawman Argument in the world! - KlausR. 06:32:33 05/27/10 (8)
- RE: The oldest Strawman Argument in the world! - geoffkait 06:58:12 05/27/10 (7)
- And, as usual, your USEFUL contribution so far is zero. - clifff 09:12:13 05/27/10 (0)
- Re: Sorry, Charlie - KlausR. 08:26:37 05/27/10 (5)
- Ouch! Low blow - geoffkait 14:37:11 05/27/10 (4)
- "LOL!" My kids do that. All the time. - clifff 16:22:54 05/27/10 (3)
- So do I. Around here, anyway. (nt) - kerr 06:48:58 05/28/10 (1)
- LOL! (nt) - geoffkait 09:46:24 05/28/10 (0)
- That's nice, Clifffy. Do they write in really short sentences like their Daddy? nt - geoffkait 16:35:10 05/27/10 (0)
- RE: "I'm not aware" - jneutron 05:45:51 05/27/10 (36)
- RE: "I'm not aware" - geoffkait 06:08:24 05/27/10 (35)
- Barko lounger?? Que? - jneutron 09:27:29 05/27/10 (34)
- Barcalounger, the choice of audio skeptics everywhere - geoffkait 09:43:36 05/27/10 (33)
- Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - jneutron 11:13:42 05/27/10 (32)
- RE: Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - geoffkait 11:30:27 05/27/10 (31)
- RE: Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - jneutron 11:46:05 05/27/10 (30)
- RE: Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - geoffkait 14:35:27 05/27/10 (29)
- RE: Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - jneutron 05:38:50 05/28/10 (14)
- That reminds me... - E-Stat 12:51:58 06/02/10 (6)
- would you believe... - jneutron 05:56:59 06/03/10 (5)
- I think you would definitely get push back - E-Stat 14:27:11 06/04/10 (4)
- I would not recommend video cable for AC. - jneutron 06:09:13 06/07/10 (0)
- RE: I think you would definitely get push back - Tony Lauck 11:53:13 06/05/10 (2)
- Does video triaxial - E-Stat 16:45:24 06/06/10 (1)
- RE: Does video triaxial - Tony Lauck 17:52:56 06/06/10 (0)
- RE: Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - geoffkait 08:02:26 05/28/10 (0)
- RE: Ah. So anybody who asks you for evidence you imply exists is a skeptic? - Tony Lauck 07:46:53 05/28/10 (0)
- Good points. - rick_m 07:35:59 05/28/10 (4)
- RE: Good points. - Ugly 22:15:31 05/31/10 (3)
- RE: Good points. - rick_m 07:08:58 06/01/10 (2)
- RE: Good points. - Ugly 12:56:39 06/01/10 (1)
- RE: Good points. - rick_m 10:47:00 06/02/10 (0)
- Nothing wrong with being a skeptic, where it's appropriate. - Tony Lauck 16:58:39 05/27/10 (13)
- I got no beef with DBTs - geoffkait 03:15:22 05/28/10 (12)
- RE: I got no beef with DBTs - kerr 06:46:09 05/28/10 (0)
- RE: I got no beef with DBTs - Tony Lauck 06:17:26 05/28/10 (10)
- RE: I got no beef with DBTs - geoffkait 08:26:23 05/28/10 (9)
- RE: I got no beef with DBTs - Tony Lauck 10:39:44 05/28/10 (8)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - geoffkait 11:59:54 05/28/10 (7)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - Tony Lauck 12:13:35 05/28/10 (6)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - morricab 09:25:53 06/02/10 (0)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - geoffkait 12:22:48 05/28/10 (4)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - Tony Lauck 12:59:39 05/28/10 (3)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - geoffkait 14:46:48 05/28/10 (2)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - Tony Lauck 15:00:30 05/28/10 (1)
- RE: "In addition the listeners need to be qualified, trained and their qualification and training proven." - geoffkait 15:30:27 05/28/10 (0)