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In Reply to: RE: Non-believers get excommunicated from the cable asylum posted by andy19191 on June 24, 2009 at 01:01:03
"If you want to create a forum where a group of believers in something want to chat to each other in a comfortable environment then it is quite sensible to adopt rules to keep out nonbelievers."
The problem isn't belief or non-belief..... The problem is instigating flames, accompanied by a zero-tolerance policy. (I personally don't agree with the "zero-tolerance policy", but for another discussion.) For if you notice, the so-called "non-believers" almost **never** exchange ideas that are totally removed from denigrating the so-called "believers."
"Even more so when those beliefs cannot be supported by rational arguments which would inevitably lead to unresolvable conflict and discomfort."
This is why the problem is instigating flames. If someone wants to believe the presence of UFOs improves turntable performance, who cares!!! (The worst anybody should do is respond with kind disagreement.)
"Open debate really only works if people either sign up for the same set of beliefs or recognise they hold different sets of beliefs."
The real litmus test is the so-called "non-believers" stating a valid point in regard to **why** audiophile behavior ought be questioned. I've yet to see one stated, and I don't expect to see one stated. For bullying audiophiles, and that alone, is the sole motivation, in my humble opinion. (I only go along with it at times because the bullying doesn't bother me personally. But I do find such activity troubling because it does create a false and damaging perception of high-end audio from the mainstream. It has also enabled the marketing of products of questionable design, because audiophile feedback is no longer taken seriously.)
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