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RE: yet another placebo effect review

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andy19191

In Reply to: RE: yet another placebo effect review posted by porky_pig_jr on January 27, 2009 at 11:31:55

> Without *any* kind of a blind testing, anything is possible, anything is
> permissible.

Blind testing is not necessarily required but controls are if a rational consumer is to have confidence in a review where the reviewer and, particularly, the publication have a vested interest in "good" reviews. It is a matter of accountability and the credibility that tends to follow from this.

Audiophiles on the other hand are not rational and they want to believe products like this "work". Is there a significant problem if audiophile publications and reviewers choose to drop the accountability/credibility in order to benefit from serving the interests of the industry and encouraging audiophiles in what they want to believe?

Personally, I can see no significant problem with this principally because audiophile products are luxury goods. Can you see a significant problem?

Follow Ups:

RE: yet another placebo effect review - Pat D 06:23:33 02/07/09 (42)
- RE: yet another placebo effect review - andy19191 08:31:35 02/07/09 (37)
  - audiophile defined - mls-stl 07:56:45 02/08/09 (36)
    - RE: audiophile defined - andy19191 00:02:29 02/09/09 (35)
      - RE: audiophile defined - anthonyh 10:28:58 03/26/09 (0)
      - Quotes from Arthur C. Clark - Tony Lauck 12:04:11 02/09/09 (2)
        
        RE: Quotes from Arthur C. Clark - andy19191 04:07:24 02/10/09 (1)
        
        RE: Quotes from Arthur C. Clark - Tony Lauck 07:27:34 02/10/09 (0)
      - I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - rick_m 08:31:34 02/09/09 (30)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - andy19191 12:51:03 02/09/09 (29)
        
        "Audiophiles really do not understand how they are viewed by others." - E-Stat 18:24:17 02/09/09 (2)
        
        RE: "Audiophiles really do not understand how they are viewed by others." - andy19191 01:07:02 02/10/09 (1)
        
        Ever more articulate detail - E-Stat 05:56:02 02/10/09 (0)
        
        +1; Well deflected. nt. - Kristian 14:11:53 02/09/09 (0)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - Tony Lauck 14:10:46 02/09/09 (13)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - andy19191 01:10:38 02/10/09 (1)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - Tony Lauck 07:41:59 02/10/09 (0)
        
        Thanks to you and the others for helping illustrate the point - mls-stl 19:55:38 02/09/09 (0)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - Kristian 17:00:36 02/09/09 (9)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - rick_m 20:26:13 02/09/09 (3)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - Kristian 08:37:23 02/10/09 (1)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - rick_m 15:27:06 02/10/09 (0)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - thetubeguy1954 05:54:45 02/10/09 (0)
        
        The different types of engineering explained - andy_c 17:55:43 02/09/09 (1)
        
        RE: The different types of engineering explained - rick_m 20:32:04 02/09/09 (0)
        
        RE: I'm an audiophile and proud of it. - Tony Lauck 17:42:56 02/09/09 (2)
        
        Just provide the *professional* answer - E-Stat 06:02:17 02/10/09 (0)
        
        So, no rebuttal to the notion you're making stuff up? - Kristian 20:08:00 02/09/09 (0)
        
        RE: Audiophiles really do not understand how they are viewed by others. - rick_m 13:22:35 02/09/09 (10)
        
        RE: Audiophiles really do not understand how they are viewed by others. - andy19191 01:12:37 02/10/09 (9)
        
        RE: Knocking some sense into us... - rick_m 09:04:30 02/10/09 (7)
        
        RE: Knocking some sense into us... - andy19191 06:14:53 02/15/09 (6)
        
        RE: Knocking some sense into us... - rick_m 08:18:06 02/15/09 (5)
        
        RE: Knocking some sense into us... - andy19191 00:08:47 02/16/09 (4)
        
        "All audiophiles hold flat earth beliefs about audio. That is what makes them audiophiles." - robert young 08:54:52 02/16/09 (2)
        
        RE: "All audiophiles hold flat earth beliefs about audio. That is what makes them audiophiles." - andy19191 01:29:01 02/17/09 (1)
        
        Whatever you believe is true. - rick_m 08:26:05 02/17/09 (0)
        
        RE: Knocking some sense into us... - rick_m 08:37:59 02/16/09 (0)
        
        Speak for yourself - Tony Lauck 07:57:45 02/10/09 (0)
- RE: yet another placebo effect review - bjh 06:58:22 02/07/09 (3)
  - RE: yet another placebo effect review - Pat D 10:45:29 02/07/09 (2)
    - RE: yet another placebo effect review - bjh 11:29:41 02/07/09 (1)
      - RE: yet another placebo effect review - Pat D 11:32:50 02/07/09 (0)

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