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>> Wow! To actually sit here and consider that you think that somehow the links you provided supports your claim " but do little or nothing to actually check on their own biases" is mind boggling to me.>>

What is mind boggling is your inability to stay focused on the topic you raised. I made the following assertion about the term objectivist in the world of audio. "because it is a widely understood term for a particular belief system in audio." You then asked me to cite one source that supported THAT CLAIM

"Please cite one credible source that supports this notion. The dictionary certainly does not. The urban dictionary does not. Where other than the school of Analog Scott/Tubeguy is one able to pick up these useful and valuable tidbits which by all appearances are complete nonsense? Ha! widely understood! maybe in your mind..."

The links I provided supported THAT CLAIM. It was not intended to support my assertion that *most* objectivists "won't trust *anyone's* ears when the results run contrary to their beliefs but they will trust thier ears when they believe the results will not be in conflict with their belief system.?" that was an entirely different claim that you never addressed until now. What is wrong with you?Do you even understand that assertion? will you be able to remeber that assertion by the next time you post a response?


>> When I read the links I only see support of what I was arguing: that objectivists are at least attempting to gather data objectively.>>

Your inability to follow your own posts make it nearly impossible to have any kind of reasonable disccusion. you were ranting about the use of the term Objectivist. Dude, figure out what it is you are bitching about and then get back to me.

>>> "really? You've done a survey? You have some data to back up your B.S.? You are talking out your ass.">>>

>> Umm recall I am still trying to identify one instance of this besides you and tubeguy. Remember?>>

Instance of what exactly? Maybe if you can be coherent enough to actually describe what it is you are actually objecting to and not completely change the substance of your gribe from one post to the next....


>> I am still of the opinion this is an isolated pocket of foolishness.>>

That "this" what is isolated foolishness? Dude, you are telling me learn to speak basic English? Here is a basic idea you should try out. Establish you pronouns. I have no idea what you are whining about. Do you have any ideawhat you are whining about here?


>> I will not waste my time with this until I establish that there may be others like you said there are.>>

Other what's? Objectivists in audio, a term you were just arguing was wrong and unused by anyone else other than Tube guy and myself until I offered several links proving otherwise? Or objectivists that "won't trust *anyone's* ears when the results run contrary to their beliefs but they will trust thier ears when they believe the results will not be in conflict with their belief system.?" try to focus here and figure out what it is you are actually disagrreing with.


>> Your links sure didn't support your claim as I have pointed out above,>>

The claim you asked me to support was "because it( the term objectivist in audio) is a widely understood term for a particular belief system in audio." My links certainly do support that assertion that sent you off into a fit of rage. You really need to read and understand what YOU write if you want to engage in any coherent discussion.

>> or at least I can't see it.>>

Of course you can't see it. You can't focus long enough to remeber what was being discussed.

>> It appears to me that you may have been exposed to too many eye liner fumes or something.>>

Eyeliner fumes? I think the real question is what are you sniffing?

>>> "Better things like arguing about well established terminology? Get a life.">>>

>> Well established that the term "Objectivists" means someone that doesn't often verify claims? Hahaha!>>

Have you suffered some sort of head wound? Where did I say anything like that? Seriously, do you see my assertion about the behavior of most objectivists as an attempt at defining what the term objectivst means? Are your powers of deduction so screwed up that you actually jumped to that bizarre conclusion?


>> I might have expected you to say something like that.>>

Well indeed you may have expected me to say something like that so much so that you managed to imagine I said something like that. Talk about the power of expectation bias. Bravo! Well demonstrated.


>> It actually clears up a lot for me. You just prefer simpler ways.>>


It "clears a lot up for you?" Now that is just plain knee slappin funny. You are pretty far from achieving clarity on this one.

>> That's OK, I guess? That is what makes your posts so darn entertaining Scott.>>

I hate to spoil your entertainment by pointing out the reality of the situation. OYOH I doubt you understood anything I just so no damage done. You might want to re-read this stuff when you are sober.




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