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In Reply to: RE: The answer is simple. posted by Presto on May 07, 2008 at 23:02:56
Presto,
Your stating the reason objectivists attack ---{your word not mine}--- is semantics. For some strange reason objectivists get anal-retentive and all hung up about the differences between a & b below.
a) "I heard a difference - therefore this cable *must be* / *is* doing something different than that cable". (Starts wars)
b) "I heard a difference, and whether it was only perceived or actually caused by the cable, I prefer cable B". (Can't argue with that).
I'll say this again, this is a hobby, it's not a life & death issue. When it ceases to be fun and turns into work and strict scientific testing, it ceases to be a hobby!
I cannot really speak for others but, I don't believe there's any subjectivist who won't admit that just like our sense of vision can be fooled via optical illusions, so too can our sense of hearing via aural illusions. In fact I'll go further and state that it's been proven that aural illusions can and in fact have fooled many people. That's exactly what Bob Carver's Sonic Hologram did! It canceled out crosstalk signals so that the left ear effectively hears only the left speaker, and the right ear effectively hears only the right speaker. This in turn made the soundstage expand dramatically, often times there was information coming from what seemed to be beyond the physical boundries of the room itself.
You completely ignored my question about why objectivists pick and choose when they'll trust their eyes and ears. When the situation is a real life and death situation these same objectivists who assume subjectivists are being fooled by aural illusions will accept the input from their eyes and ears unquestioned! Yet when a hobby is involved these objectivists suddenly start demanding proof that the subjectivist's eyes and ears aren't be fooled by optical and aural illusionsd!
So basically objectivists are saying this: "When my a$$ is on the line you're damned straight I'll trust what my eyes see and my ears hear but, when subjectivists are enjoying their hobby I require proof of what their eyes see and their ears hear!" Seems to me like these objectivists are a bit hypocritical but, I've been saying that for some time now so I'm hardly surprised.
Thetubeguy1954
A Rational Subjectivist
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