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In Reply to: RE: "if RBG comes to florida everything will change." .... "so you'd think anyone with 1/2 a brain would realise " posted by Richard BassNut Greene on March 21, 2008 at 13:19:15
RBG: If I come to Florida, there goes the neighborhood!
TG1954: Although that's probably true it would be worth it to finally prove you that I ---and many others--- can detect differences in 1M ICs.
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RBG: Well the good news, Mr. Tubular54, is you haven't done a real blind test to prove you can hear wire differences, so until you do, I have no idea if you can hear wire differences or not. So until you demonstrate your ability to someone, all I can do is continue to sit here and take potshots at your unproven claims of great hearing abilities ("because I say so" isn't proof in my book) because this is much easier and cheaper than going to the zoo every day and rattling the monkey cage to get some entertainment.
TG1954: Actually Richard you're the one who stated in Audio Asylum ---numerous times--- SBTs are sufficient for testing ICs & knobs! When my friend Rick and I did the tests we'd take turns choosing which of the 8 ICs would be inserted. So these were SBTs because when I inserted the IC Rick had no idea which IC was being used and when Rick inserted the ICs I had no idea which IC was inserted either! Your claims now that I didn't do a real blind test to prove (I) can hear wire differences, is just more of your typical LFO back tracking, when the test results don't support your audio beliefs.
Remember Richard it was YOU, not I, who stated that SBTs were sufficient! Here's some of your posts were you've stated that very thing:
1) http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=prophead&n=21231&highlight=single+blind+test+sbt+Richard+BassNut+Greene&r=&session=
This post was actually addressed to me personally! You stated and I quote; "Maybe you can hear interconnect differences. Maybe you imagine these differences. An SBT could settle the issue in one hour. What are you scared of?" In even though you previously posted in past threads that an SBT was sufficient, now this post YOU'RE claiming (I)haven't done a real blind test to prove (I) can hear wire differences! Geez-louise talk about being two-faced Richard???? You won't even stick by your own statements when the results they produce don't support your POV.
2) http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=prophead&n=23912&highlight=single+blind+test+sbt+Richard+BassNut+Greene&r=&session=
This post was addressed to Cheap-Jack. In it you stated: Stop flapping your gums about how to test Power cords --if you believe they sound different, just do a one-hour SBT and prove it to yourself ... or find out you had an overactive imagination. You have nothing to lose, and can only gain knowledge.
3)http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=prophead&n=20975&highlight=single+blind+test+sbt+Richard+BassNut+Greene&r=&session=
In this post you stated: "If someone thinks they hear a difference then a test is justified. A single blind test with something hiding the knobs would work. No A-B volume matching would be needed. This would take less than an hour."
4) http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=prophead&n=31064&highlight=single+blind+test+sbt+Richard+BassNut+Greene&r=&session=
This post was addressed to Kerr about power cords and once again you stated: Any subjective experimentation with different wires is doomed as you already expect certain results = your mind will try to justify pre-existing beliefs. Plus the thicker speaker cables will be louder. Even YOU might hear that. So easy to do a single blind wire swap comparison. Yet so rare among Golden Ears that you'd think and SBT was equivalent to the effort required to climb Mt. Everest!
I believe I've provided sufficient evidence that you've claimed to me personally, Cheap-Jack and Kerr that SBTs are all that's required to test for audible differences in ICs, power cords and even knobs! But now you've back-tracked and claim my SBTs aren't a real blind test! How pitiful you are Richard.
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TG1954: Now as for your ridiculous claim that Audio memory is so short that listening to a song, taking a break for one minute, then listen to the same song again ... and it will sound different the second time, without changing the volume, or changing one component. I can only say this is just one more idiotic LFO canned-answer that is very easily disproved! Do you even think about some of your beliefs Richard before spewing out such assinine statements Richard, or do you just automatically accept anything that supports your warped audio POV as being a fact?
"If" you'd take a moment to think about this Richard, you'd realize our audio memory cannot be as short as you'd have us to believe it is. If it was, I ask you, how do you ---or anyone else for that matter recognise your/their wife's/child's/mother's voice on the phone if they call 3-5 minutes after leaving the house? Another example is how do you or others, recognize a saxophone from a trumpet, a piano from a harpsichord, a guitar from a harp, a mandolin from a banjo, or cello from a violin? "IF" our audio memory was as short as you claim it is, wouldn't you/we need to have your ear/brain retrained to recognize the differences between these different instruments everytime you/we listened to music?
The very fact that you/we don't need to retrain your/our ear/brain to recognize the differences between these various different instruments reveals your statement about how short term your/our audio memory is, to be quite ludicrous. This is just another fine example of you stating your self-perceived, erroneous, acumen on various audio topics as if they were facts! The reality Richard is "I don't believe others hear what they hear" is one of the many rides you take in LFO audio fantasyland!
In the future I'd suggest thinking BEFORE making statements in the future. Perhaps you are loosing it, afterall you've claimed numerous times that SBTs are a valid test and then you claim (I) haven't done a real blind test to prove (I) can hear wire differences after I do an SBT. Maybe senility is creeping in! That would certainly explain a lot of your audio beliefs...
Thetubeguy1954
A Rational Subjectivist
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