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In Reply to: RE: "Everything sounds different" is the heart and soul (myth) of high end Golden Ear audiophiles posted by Richard BassNut Greene on December 18, 2007 at 07:48:46
1)Name some high-end audio reviewers (even one) who ever stated in print that he could not hear a difference between any two audio components.
Why would any hobbyist magazine want to spend their time and effort printing an article about two components they didn't detect any difference in? Who'd want to read such an article? Richard I'd have thought even you'd understand that hobbyist mags and yes that includes audio hobbyist mags, are supposed to make $$$$. They make $$$$ by providing their readers with what the readers want to read about! People what to know and read about the differences (if any) in audio components, cars, cameras, guns etc. Few people are interested in articles that detect no differences in the components their hobby is involved in!
2) Name a high end audio reviewer who even bothered to do a controlled listening test to be sure he could hear a difference before pontificating at length about a new component. Probably few, if any.
The thing is Richard you don't even know what the answer is to your own question. For you, yourself state "Probably few, if any." Then you use a very vague term of "a controlled listening test." What exactly is that a DBT, SBT, matching SPLs, something different? I may be mistaken but I believe John Atkinson and mkuller or perhaps morricab have said they've done either DBTs, or matched SPL testing. Those would certainly qualify as a type of "controlled listening test."
3) You're unlikely to find these 'honest reviewers' because it's so much easier to just assume there are always audible differences (easy to assume but also intellectually lazy) and never even try to prove it.
Actually it's more unlikely to find an 'honest objective poster' because it's so much easier for them (like you do) to claim subjective listeners believe there are always audible differences. Then even though you refuse to provide one iota of proof that subjectivists believe that statement to be true, you ponder why they don't ever try to prove it! As I stated in another post to you, the reason no one can prove "everything sounds different" is actually a quite simple. No one really believes that's true except YOU! This belief is only true in your mind Richard! I defy you to provide some proof that subjectivists believe "everything sounds different." For a second time I ask for some proof of your mistruths about subjectivist beliefs be provided and once again, as always, I'm sure you'll balk...
4) In 40 years as an audiophile I've also never heard any employee of an audio store say he couldn't hear a difference between two components.
Are you really so surprised by this Richard? An employee of an audio store is there to sell audio components. It's his job to convince perspective clients the new ANERES II preamp is an improved version that's worth trading up to! That's how they make their $$$$$. Geez Richard you're really twisting reality and circumstances to fit your beliefs aren't you?
5) Note for those professional Golden Ear nitpickers: -- The above sentences don't apply to speakers.
Why RBG? Because speakers have differences that can be measured? So do amps and preamps!
Thetubeguy1954
A Rational Subjectivist
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