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In Reply to: RE: DBT Hall of Shame posted by bjh on December 12, 2007 at 08:56:43:
I have a copy of that AES paper. Anybody who wants one, feel free to email me.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - DBT Hall of Shame - bjh 11:32:10 12/10/07 (105)
- Shame on the "experts" - tomservo 06:20:55 12/14/07 (7)
- RE: Shame on the "experts" - rdf 09:52:05 12/14/07 (0)
- Hmmmm...? I wonder if there's an element of personal bias involved in your opinion? - bjh 07:05:09 12/14/07 (5)
- RE: Hmmmm...? I wonder if there's an element of personal bias involved in your opinion? - tomservo 09:06:57 12/14/07 (4)
- Tsk tsk... - bjh 11:00:40 12/14/07 (3)
- RE: Tsk tsk... - tomservo 12:02:08 12/14/07 (2)
- RE: another possibility - mls-stl 16:33:14 12/16/07 (0)
- RE: Tsk tsk... - bjh 13:33:56 12/14/07 (0)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - theaudiohobby 04:29:43 12/12/07 (8)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - John Atkinson 08:30:34 12/14/07 (1)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - theaudiohobby 11:38:48 12/16/07 (0)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - bjh 08:56:43 12/12/07 (5)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - andy_c 10:25:06 12/12/07 (3)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - Pat D 14:37:05 12/12/07 (2)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - andy_c 15:04:33 12/12/07 (1)
- Thanks Andy-c (nt) - Pat D 20:28:11 12/12/07 (0)
- RE: Good sleuthing -nt - theaudiohobby 08:58:25 12/12/07 (0)
- Every sighted comparison is already in the Hall of Shame - Richard BassNut Greene 15:26:02 12/11/07 (81)
- I claim I hear something and typically I enjoy it... - Wellfed 11:55:42 12/12/07 (12)
- HOW DARE YOU?! - Analog Scott 09:48:29 12/13/07 (11)
- Calm down Scotty - AJinFLA 19:54:07 12/14/07 (10)
- I can't control my rage knowing that Wellfed is enjoying his preferences - Analog Scott 23:43:15 12/14/07 (9)
- Hmm, so you are ok with those who enjoy the superior sound of digital over analog? - AJinFLA 18:14:04 12/16/07 (8)
- those preferences fall in line with measurements - Analog Scott 22:01:36 12/16/07 (7)
- RE: those preferences fall in line with measurements - AJinFLA 18:37:51 12/17/07 (6)
- RE: those preferences fall in line with measurements - Analog Scott 23:35:39 12/17/07 (4)
- RE: those preferences fall in line with measurements - AJinFLA 16:42:28 12/18/07 (3)
- RE: those preferences fall in line with measurements - Analog Scott 20:15:42 12/18/07 (2)
- "I don't know why. I just know what I have heard." - Bingo - AJinFLA 08:41:39 12/22/07 (1)
- RE: "I don't know why. I just know what I have heard." - Bingo - Analog Scott 23:05:15 12/23/07 (0)
- "Piano wire is more my type..." - what do you do with it, strangle audiophiles at night? - carcass93 19:48:42 12/17/07 (0)
- Hey your post brought to mind a really interesting thought ... - bjh 07:52:44 12/12/07 (0)
- Robert Young is correct. - markrohr 03:16:50 12/12/07 (32)
- Congratulations. (A-B level matching is so rare in sighted comparisons it's almost unbelievable) - Richard BassNut Greene 07:38:29 12/12/07 (27)
- C'mon, Richard. - markrohr 17:50:49 12/12/07 (23)
- What reviewers do is not typical of audiophiles -- not one A-B volume matching in 40 years in audio stores - Richard BassNut Greene 08:37:04 12/13/07 (22)
- That has been my experience also.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 17:09:58 12/14/07 (0)
- Aren't you around 51? - Bruce Kendall 11:48:47 12/13/07 (3)
- Audiophile since 1966 - Richard BassNut Greene 16:09:30 12/13/07 (2)
- An 11 year-old giving dealers crap about - Bruce Kendall 10:06:35 12/15/07 (0)
- Anti-Audiophile since 2006...(nt) - mkuller 20:02:01 12/13/07 (0)
- Weeheee!! There he goes again! - robert young 09:53:06 12/13/07 (16)
- My post is obviously about my own experiences over 40 years - Richard BassNut Greene 16:15:25 12/13/07 (13)
- Hmmm - E-Stat 18:48:47 12/13/07 (0)
- And you told me to "learn to read???" - robert young 17:40:32 12/13/07 (11)
- RE: And you told me to "learn to read???" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:22:21 12/14/07 (10)
- It is amazing that you think you can cover your butt by editing your old posts. - robert young 09:13:39 12/14/07 (7)
- I added four words to one sentence "(while I was witness)" -- how about editing your posts? - Richard BassNut Greene 11:14:52 12/16/07 (5)
- Yes, Richard, you changed completely meaning of the sentence in question. - robert young 05:20:01 12/17/07 (4)
- Take sentence out of context and then attack -- is that all you Golden Ears have to support your beliefs? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:23:18 12/17/07 (3)
- Nobody's buying that line of BS, RG. - robert young 08:37:24 12/17/07 (2)
- Sentence by sentence, I'll explain my original post , for the "slower" audiophiles ... - Richard BassNut Greene 09:07:03 12/17/07 (1)
- "I'll have to add an explanation for the "slower" audiophiles who take the "short bus" to school" - robert young 09:38:46 12/17/07 (0)
- Now there's one for the Propeller Head Plaza - Hall of Shame... and will be hard to top! LOL nt - bjh 11:15:12 12/14/07 (0)
- Ricky I beleive even Prop Head has limits when it comes to trools! - bjh 08:51:16 12/14/07 (1)
- A pathetic golden ears character attack just makes the golden ears look bad - Richard BassNut Greene 11:02:32 12/16/07 (0)
- I think he needs to change the batteries - E-Stat 11:57:24 12/13/07 (1)
- Or he could use the Google for the word "logic" -t - Sordidman 14:18:45 12/13/07 (0)
- I challenge you to provide proof... - mkuller 11:32:16 12/12/07 (1)
- He gets his panties in a twist - markrohr 17:56:51 12/12/07 (0)
- RE: Congratulations. (A-B level matching is so rare in sighted comparisons it's almost unbelievable) - morricab 07:41:37 12/12/07 (0)
- RE: Robert Young is correct. - Dan Banquer 04:44:58 12/12/07 (3)
- RE: Robert Young is correct - markrohr 17:55:10 12/12/07 (0)
- A stopped clock is correct twice a day - Richard BassNut Greene 07:41:33 12/12/07 (1)
- You managed to be outperformed by a broken clock - Analog Scott 09:51:59 12/13/07 (0)
- RE: Every sighted comparison is already in the Hall of Shame - morricab 01:29:47 12/12/07 (26)
- RE: Every sighted comparison is already in the Hall of Shame - John Atkinson 06:57:34 12/13/07 (11)
- The ear is not a microphone - John Atkinson 16:46:08 12/13/07 (6)
- Thanks a lot. nt - jensw 23:19:35 12/13/07 (0)
- RE: The brain is not a computer - Richard BassNut Greene 17:11:42 12/13/07 (4)
- RE: The brain is not a computer - John Atkinson 08:43:26 12/14/07 (2)
- RE: The brain is not a computer - morricab 07:53:53 12/17/07 (1)
- RE: The brain is not a computer - John Atkinson 08:53:49 12/18/07 (0)
- Points... - bjh 17:28:30 12/13/07 (0)
- "This happens all the time in proofing." Here's another instrucive example. - clarkjohnsen 13:59:43 12/13/07 (2)
- RE: "This happens all the time in proofing." Here's another instrucive example. - rdf 14:46:56 12/13/07 (1)
- Yeah. This visiting kevboard I'm at... - clarkjohnsen 19:54:56 12/13/07 (0)
- RE: Every sighted comparison is already in the Hall of Shame - rdf 12:39:25 12/13/07 (0)
- That was supposed to be funny, but I will add ... - Richard BassNut Greene 07:27:48 12/12/07 (13)
- RE: That was supposed to be funny, but I will add ... - morricab 07:39:02 12/12/07 (8)
- Don't scientists test hypotheses? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:49:00 12/12/07 (7)
- I've told you a million times... - mkuller 13:19:47 12/13/07 (5)
- Stereophile blind amp test 62% heard differences when amp compared with itself (Golden ears vs. random guess) - Richard BassNut Greene 16:21:57 12/13/07 (4)
- 62% is hardly "almost everyone" - maybe "more than half"...(nt) - mkuller 16:52:28 12/13/07 (0)
- Is this the test where they packed groups of listeners into room for trials? - bjh 16:36:53 12/13/07 (2)
- Atkinson says he knows the difference between good and bad blind test methodologies ... and HE published the results - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:01 12/17/07 (1)
- RE: Atkinson says he knows the difference between good and bad blind test methodologies ... and HE published t - Pat D 14:21:50 12/17/07 (0)
- RE: Don't scientists test hypotheses? - morricab 06:59:13 12/13/07 (0)
- So... - bjh 07:36:59 12/12/07 (3)
- I can't tell you how disappointed I am ... - Richard BassNut Greene 07:51:37 12/12/07 (2)
- That smacks of a double standard! - bjh 08:12:08 12/12/07 (1)
- Standards? ... STANDARDS! ... We don't need no stinkin' standards - Richard BassNut Greene 08:58:16 12/13/07 (0)
- "No attempt to match A and B SPL's:" pure fantasy conjecture on your part. - robert young 19:53:21 12/11/07 (6)
- Learn how to read a post before making silly comments - Richard BassNut Greene 07:31:08 12/12/07 (1)
- "Learn to read??" Nice one. - robert young 07:53:04 12/12/07 (0)
- RE: "No attempt to match A and B SPL's:" pure fantasy conjecture on your part. - Dan Banquer 05:05:04 12/12/07 (3)
- That may be true... - robert young 07:55:21 12/12/07 (2)
- RE: That may be true... - rdf 12:55:11 12/13/07 (1)
- It seems that with a certain crew.. - robert young 13:36:56 12/13/07 (0)
- Necessary vs. sufficient - andy_c 12:46:42 12/10/07 (3)
- Oh please, is the rhetoric necessary? - bjh 13:19:18 12/10/07 (2)
- RE: Oh please, is the rhetoric necessary? - morricab 04:42:18 12/11/07 (0)
- That's my line! - andy_c 13:40:53 12/10/07 (0)
- DBT- hall of flame. - cheap-Jack 11:57:05 12/10/07 (1)
- I Like That!!!! - Todd Krieger 02:30:36 12/11/07 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - andy_c 10:25:06 12/12/07 (3)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - Pat D 14:37:05 12/12/07 (2)
- RE: DBT Hall of Shame - andy_c 15:04:33 12/12/07 (1)
- Thanks Andy-c (nt) - Pat D 20:28:11 12/12/07 (0)