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In Reply to: RE: no surprise posted by mls-stl on June 04, 2007 at 09:10:13
mls-stl,I think it's shame that you're taking an intelligent discussion on the known phenomenon of the physical change or deterioration of materials with mechanical movement and twisting it into a sideshow with the usage of the words like magical, simply because you disagree with others suggestions/beliefs of what's actually occuring. At no time did I suggest or say that things work this way in the rest of the physical world, but with audio there is special rule. That comment is simply one of a couple of your childish attempts to discredit statements you don't agree with rather than disprove them. Another example is when you claimed: "Any part of the known phenomenon that is out of sync with our belief can be discarded with the "but audio is special" caveat." You're the only one suggesting any such thing mls-stl. I find your comment about the loosening of driver surrounds and spiders, and how it takes hundreds of hours for them to condition correctly, and then they magically know when to stop further change at precisely the point when the sound has gotten to what we like is quite simply ludicrous.
It's well known that ALL speakers are ELECTRO-MECHANICAL, which means they take an electrical signal and convert to mechanical motion. When first assembled the mechanical properties of speakers such as their cone and spider material, suspension material, cone material, voice coil, magnetic material flux density. ribbon weight, area, tension, panel dimensions, magnet distance, stator distance, electrostatic voltage differential etc., require a certain amount of time (typically 50-100hrs) to break or settle in to an optimal point. This isn't a magical event as you sarcastically suggested, it's simple physics. What seems to bother you and the other naysayers is that there's an optimal point of break in. But there's is no "magic" inherent in speaker break-in. The speakers (like your car engine and all other mechanical components) will continue to break-in naturally throughout its lifespan, it's simply a fact that the most noticeable amount will occur early on.
I'm really amazed that you have difficulty with the concept and find it to be odd that in audio things only improve with their initial break-in. All one need do is remember the designer/manufacturer developed the component in question basing it's performance on what a broken in components sounds like. So whereas the sound the designer/manufacturer wants you to hear is the sound of a component that's been broken in, it stands to reason that what you hear will improve until it gets to that point, no? No one (besides YOU) said the components will never get worse. Eventually they will, but after they're initially broken in, that will be a long way down the road. In fact it will most likely be so slow and gradual that you won't even hear the deterioration until there's a serious problem which requires intervention to repair, that's why speakers eventually need to be reconed, surrounds need to be replaced or voice coils realigned.
So NO this is NOT at odds with the way that things work in the rest of the physical world. If you believe that we always have the "but audio is special" rule mls-stl so be it! But in this case you're the only claiming that's so...
Thetubeguy1954
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